Eric - You seem to have mistakenly concluded that everyone who hates Bush is as inarticulate as your friend. They aren't. We aren't. At least I'm not. Sometimes there are so many reasons to feel the way we do, that we get flooded. And the flood blocks us from thinking clearly. But there are many good reasons to hate him, not because he's a member of the other party either. There was a time when relationships were possible between Democrats and Republicans -- across the aisle. This administration seems to have heightened the hostility and frozen it at an all time high. Here are some reasons I hate Bush and this administration, in no particular order: * ** Everyone who disagrees with his viewpoint is called unpatriotic. He's created a toxic climate in America because dissent is routinely squelched. * ** His administration has intimidated reporters who question him and sabotaged our ability to have an open marketplace of ideas. His more than any other administration in recent memory is responsible for that. I don't remember Nixon as so loathesomely effective at frightening the Fourth Estate into silence. * ** His lies. This president lies about everything under the sun -- and reporters in print and broadcasting have let him get away with it repeatedly because they're afraid of him. Just today in a piece on his trip to Ireland, he said to an Irish reporter that most of Europe has supported his war in Iraq. His lies about WMD and his deliberate effort at confusing the public into believing that Iraq was behind 9/11. (70% of the American people still believe that.) And that's because this president has artfully injected that lie into everything he says. He lies about his environmental policies, his economic policies, his tax cuts for the very rich, his education policies. His ads are so filled with lies about his opponent that I'm ready to throw up whenever I hear them. *** His pre-emptive war has made America a model for every rogue state to imitate. Pakistan and India could use America's stupid behavior regarding Iraq as an excuse to go to war as well. Bush started a pre-emptive war against Iraq because he told us that Iraq is imminently ready to go to war with us. And will. We've learned how truthful that assertion was. *** He's isolated America from the rest of the world with his rejection of all the treaties America had agreed to prior to his arrival on the scene. The network of treaties and policies that brought America together with the rest of the civilized world was ripped apart by this radical extremist. Mr. Putin seems like a more civilized leader than Bush in comparison. *** He's sucked the Federal government dry by stealing money from the treasury, social services and social security to hand the money over to the richest of the rich. The poorest of the poor, the most vulnerable in society, are paying the most for his tax cuts and his war. And because he's given so much back to the very rich, all the rest of us have experienced tax increases: local property taxes have gone up; local school districts have suffered great losses; police and fire have been depleted; state governments have suffered. *** His Patriot Act has successfully rolled back our civil liberties and expanded the power of government, just the opposite of the Republican focus on limited government. The CEO of the USA is not like other chief executives who can order subordinates around. This CEO's purpose is to lead and to persuade. He manages the executive branch, but he can't order the 535 members of Congress around. He can influence them. But Bush persuades with lies. He reminds me of what a poor salesman does in order to sell his product or service. He misrepresents and falsifies the benefits he offers to close the sale. That's what George W. Bush has done from Day One. If you don't hate Bush, maybe it's because you believe him. "Maybe hating Bush or hating Kerry is a way of > avoiding the issues, a way of simplifying political judgments that get more > complex every time one examines them." "The hatred" that you cite is unusual. It's not the result of avoiding the issues that I can see. It has grown incrementally from the day Bush took office. Step by step, one step at a time, he depleted any sense of good will. Everytime he made a decision, it's always landed on the side of the very rich -- rich people and very rich corporations. He's never represented -- not once that I can think of -- the best interest of the people. I don't have the time to continue any further, but this affable Texan has successfully moved us into a Charles Dickens like world, widening the gap between rich and poor, making the rest of the world see us as dangerous rather than the kind and generous giant that we are -- and with his doctrine of pre-emptive war it's not just a mistaken perception. We've made t he world more dangerous, not just life in America more dangerous. Stan Spiegel Someone who hates Bush for good reason Portland, Maine ----- Original Message ----- From: <Scribe1865@xxxxxxx> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 10:23 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Hate Clubs > I wonder if anyone has read anything recently that addresses the role of hate > in American politics? > Passed a guy on the street today with a "New York hates Bush" T-shirt. So > much of politics seems to involve the construction of hated figments--and what > seems more interesting--the creation of community through shared objects of hate. > > It's come to pass that if we hate the same politicians, we are cool to each > other, and accepted into a community created by that hate. A friend tells me he > hates Bush. Why, I ask, and it almost causes him to splutter, as if having to > recite the litany of reasons to hate is beside the point. Surely you wish to > see him defeated, he asks. And when I ask for his reasons, I can feel the > chill setting in, the feeling of exclusion from the hate club, can feel that it > might affect our friendship that I actually called him on his reasons for > hating, instead of just touting my membership card. > > A few months ago, AOL had a politics quiz. State your positions on the two > dozen issues, and the Java template would match you up with your candidate. Mine > came up Kerry by a wide margin. But do I trust Kerry to deliver on any of his > positions? Not really. Do I hate him? No. Do I hate Bush? No. > > But every day, I feel excluded from hate clubs, and it makes me wonder what > the hate clubs are all about. Maybe hating Bush or hating Kerry is a way of > avoiding the issues, a way of simplifying political judgments that get more > complex every time one examines them. Although I think maybe something more > sinister is at work--hate clubs working as a way of disenfranchising people. I'm > reminded of the enemy of the people in Orwell's _1984_, and realize that either > presidential candidate could be "the enemy of the people," the guy people hate > and create a community by hating. Meanwhile the business of government and the > important civil decisions are elsewhere. > > Eric > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html