[lit-ideas] Re: Grice & Grice: The Double Act
- From: Mike Geary <jejunejesuit.geary2@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 00:27:01 -0500
There was a time when I was as young as our young JL and I believed language
was the key to unlocking why we think how we think. So, about 30 years ago
I bought the book "Readings in the Philosophy of Language" edited by Jay F.
Rosenberg and Charles Travis (Prentice-Hall, 1971). Of the 36 essays
therein, (the source of my list) I've read maybe (perhaps) 3 or 4, dibbled
and dabbled in others. It's all really very boring to a refrigeration
mechanic.
But I still believe that language is the key to who (whom?) we are. But it's
not just linguistics, it's the emotional attachment that we invest certain
words with. Our prejudices infect our language like some terrible parasite.
I've come to believe most in prejudice.
To relieve Lawrence of any guilt, I am smart in some ways, stupid in others,
as I suspect most of us are. "Doth God exact day labor light denied?" I
don't know anyone who has changed his/her mind through argument, only
through the recognition that what they believe isn't working. You haven't
reached that point yet, obviously. : ) Maybe someday.
Mike Geary
Memphis
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> wrote:
> Does coming up with such a list require that the person coming up with it
> be "smart"? Not that Geary isn't smart. I think he is, but consider
> these alternatives:
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> Geary may have a good reference book that enables him to formulate the
> subject list without actually having to read everyone on the list.
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> Geary may have read a book who's author references the books on the list.
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> Geary may have googled some particular term that produced the list.
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> Also, it isn't a matter of how smart Geary is but of his desire to read all
> those authors. JL probably believes that Geary is smart enough, but that
> he hasn't the interest or will to have read them.
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> [trying to qualify to be able to post on the Grice Club list]
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> Lawrence
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> *From:* lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Mike Geary
> *Sent:* Monday, May 10, 2010 8:25 PM
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> *To:* lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [lit-ideas] Re: Grice & Grice: The Double Act
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> JL:
> > I´m still wondering how Geary, of all people, came up with that list.
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> Maybe I'm smarter than you think I am. : )
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> Mike Geary
> Linguistic Missonary to the Language-challenged masses.
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> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:01 PM, <jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Yost <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Mon, May 10, 2010 3:29 pm
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Insults Which Are Humorous (Maybe)
> Tonight at the Improv! It's a Laugh Riot! Masters of Comedy!
> Austin, Chomsky, Davidson, Dennett, Donnellan, Fillmore, Fodor, Geach,
> Grice, Harman, Katz, Putnam, Quine, Searle,
> Strawson, and Ziff --
> ....
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> I´m still wondering how Geary, of all people, came up with that list.
> "Of all people" is to be taken at the EXPLICATURE level, not the
> implicature level, mind.
> Austin was born in Lancaster. His middle name was Langshaw
> Chomsky was born in the Bronx, I think. Or Brooklyn. Or Manhattan. His
> first name is Avram. His PhD was on the Hebrew language.
> Davidson´s second name was "Herbert", like Grice´s first name ("Herbert
> Paul"=
> Donnellan is an Irish name. He only wrote ONE essay trying to be witty, but
> failed.
> Fillmore is a linguist -- kant count.
> Fodor was born in Brooklyn.
> Geach was married to Gertrude Anscombe, till she died. (Is it okay to say
> "was married" just because SHE died?)
> Grice is the greatest philosopher that ever lived. I have a poll on him at
> the GriceClub.com. So far the votes are confirming my cliam.
> Harman learned all his philo from Grice.
> Katz believed in analyticity.
> Putnam wrote on the taste of twater.
> "Quine" is a Manx surname.
> Searle was born in Dallas.
> Strawson was Grice´s pupil at St. John´s. With Austin and Grice in Geary´s
> list, the only three English born Oxonians.
> Ziff means "Zip" in German.
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> J. L. Speranza
> Bordighera
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