[lit-ideas] Re: God loves a good laugh as much as anyone!
- From: Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:31:57 -0700 (PDT)
Let's see, ancient history: Vietnam, Iraq, Guantanamo, beating people *to
death* during slavery then fighting a war for that privilege, secret
rendition. We support state sponsored execution, otherwise known as the death
penalty, and on and on and on. A *constitutional right* for AK-47's? What
does one do with AK-47's? Atomic weapons that only we have used? These are
Instruments of brotherly love? And our entire economy is based on them.
Forget infrastructure. Cluster bombs. We need more cluster bombs and every
other imaginable means of death and destruction. This is civilization?
We're making progress, definitely, but for every step forward there's a HUGE
step backward, against the individual, against the collective, against the
environment that sustains the individual and the collective, all aided and
abetted by this blob of ignorance called "the American people". We are a hate
filled society that understands and glorifies ONLY money and material
possessions. You're right in that we've made progress since we can see
beheadings as barbaric, but remind me, Mike, how do you get a nigger out of a
tree? If you want to live in a fantasy, live in it. But don't call me
misanthropic because I choose to see reality the way it really is.
For David, I completely agree about forgiveness. There's a body of evidence
that says it's downright good for health. Unfortunately, our lizard brains
(Arianna Huffington) rule. The only real way to end the zombie-ism is to treat
children with respect and dignity so they don't need to shut down. We're
making some small steps in that direction but not nearly enough. The real
answer, licensing parents, is met by deafening howls against it. How do you
get a parenting license supporter down from a tree? Clearly David, you're an
outstanding parent, but the vast majority need help, a lot of help and they are
the ones who will fight tooth and nail against it. Having said all that,
forgiveness is definitely a huge step toward civilization. If only we can
convince people that there's money in it...
--- On Sat, 6/28/08, Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: God loves a good laugh as much as anyone!
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 4:12 AM
I'm very glad to see that Andy has not moderated her misanthropy in my
absence. She is the star to every wandering bark. And though she apparently
sees the pursuit of perfection as not only attainable, but is unforgiving
in that we're not perfect yet. If only everyone would think as she does! But
where she sees nothing but sameness in human history, I see enormous changes.
I won't go through the catalog, we all know them. Let me just say that on
reading the last sentence of the report, the fact that I burst into
laughter tells me that we have moved well beyond the self-defeating, moronic
beliefs of those killers. Humor is not only the best medicine, it's also the
worst put down.
Mike Geary
Memphis
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:13 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: God loves a good laugh as much as anyone!
Sounds like the people are zombified and in trance states. Pretty much the
norm throughout history. Not so different than stoning someone to death or
when during Elizabethan times it was customary to bribe the executor with the
Ax to make it quick. Likewise the Romans (whom we like to think we resemble)
threw people to lions and watched them get torn to pieces for entertainment;
crucifixions, Vikings accused each other of being baby lovers if they refused
to toss babies in the air and spear them. Abu Ghraib, Mi Lai (which was not an
isolated incident); serial killers get fan mail and marriage proposals in
prison by the boxful, and on and on and on. One has to wonder if God is shut
down too. We're created in his image...
--- On Sat, 6/28/08, Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [lit-ideas] God loves a good laugh as much as anyone!
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 2:47 AM
"Whoever, for the sake of money, for the sake of America, harms the interest of
the Islamic world will meet the same fate," Rehman said.
Gunmen with daggers then pounced on one of the men -- identified as Jan Wali,
36 -- decapitated him and waved his bloody head to the cheering crowd,
according to an Associated Press reporter and AP Television News footage.
The militants then argued over how to kill the other man because he may have
been a teenager, before one lost patience and shot him with an assault rifle.
The crowd erupted in cheers of "God is great!" and gunmen fired in the air in
jubilation. The celebratory gunfire killed two bystanders and wounded six,
local official Fazal Rabbi said.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/368769_pakistan28.html
Mike Geary
Memphis
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