[lit-ideas] Re: Global warming claims tropical island

Thank you for your non vitriolic reply, Andy.

Exploiting global warming is what the media mongers are busy doing in
the UK.  Maybe it's not news in America but in the UK, every second
breath is global and the third is warming.

With respect to bird flu, same thing.  My point was only that a year or
so ago the headlines of every bloody newspaper in the UK was screaming
we will all die of bird flu and it's all either the NHS' fault or Tony
Blair's fault.  The prediction was this year.  No one is dead from bird
flu in the UK as far as I know, hysteria notwithstanding.  Maybe we will
all die in fifty years from bird flu or an invasion from outer space. 
Or maybe in fifty years we'll just be dead.

In some respects, the UK media is the enemy in the UK for it historic
hysterical trivialising.  If hundreds of thousands were to be dead this
year and they're not, what would I think about similar headlines and
hysteria about global warming?

Yes, Ben Nevis, no snow.  Yes, the Scots I spoke to were scratching
their heads about no snow but that's because the media tells them to
scratch their heads.  There are weather patterns which scientists whose
funding relies upon hysteria won't tell you about and if they won't tell
you nor will the hyserical media.

Must I rely upon a film of Al Gore to frighten me?

Isn't Al Gore the son of a senator from Tennessee (aka - privileged fuck
who has his own interests at heart) whose wife was part of a fascist
musical censorship front?  The man who didn't have the balls to
challenge a fucked up election scheme in Florida and lost the
presidency?  Why would I believe this cock up?  Because he's shilling
for attention now that he can't figure out what to do with his
post-political life and his yuppie conscience is itching?

I liked your line "Bush announced it in 2004" (that must make it true)

It's interesting, from the outside anyway, that you champion the
hysteria of global warming but not the hysteria of terrorism.  I know
they are two different things yet they are two similar things in that
they both rely on manufacturing fear and they derive their pleasure both
from oil which it would appear to the layman, that no one is really too
fucking concerned about.  (Yes, don't eat beef because cows fart methane
but drive a car because the veggie hospice is too far away to walk
to...)

ICE ICE AGE BABY

But as always Andy, thanks.


On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 00:48:06 -0500 (EST), "Andy Amago"
<aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> Except that virtually nobody is exploiting global warming, or even
> talking about it, except me, and trust me, I'm not making any money on
> this.  I'm sure percentage wise to the population, I out of this whole
> group who believes in GW is far higher than the percentage out of the
> entire American world population who believes in it or even knows about
> it.  Tony Blair believes in it, I don't know what he has to gain from it. 
> 
> Also, GW makes very poor entertainment, if one goes by the returns Gore's
> movie got.  No Academy Awards for him.
> 
> The bird flu depends on what the virus decides to do.  Maybe tomorrow,
> maybe 50 years from now, maybe never.  It's a virus.  We know it did
> happen and that it could happen, and what the virus has to do to make it
> happen, that's all.  Likewise the Bubonic Plague bacterium happened,
> wiped out half of Europe.  But the difference between the bird flu and GW
> is that GW is not something that could happen.  It is happening, it's in
> progress, and it's a lot more complicated than one virus.  
> 
> Regarding that we don't have the technology to clean the air, even if
> that's true, there are at this very moment plans to put a space station
> on the moon.  Bush announced it in 2004.  It's going to be small of
> course, maybe the size of a house trailer, but they're going to extract
> the elements out of the surface of the moon to make air and water so it's
> self-sustaining.  The machine to do that is the size of an office desk. 
> We have that kind of technology but we can't figure out an alternative
> fuel source besides oil?  Likewise they're digging miles beneath the
> ocean for oil in the Gulf of Mexico, but they can't extract heat out of
> the earth to warm houses?  Digging miles beneath the ocean with all the
> attendant earthquakes and hurricanes that threaten spilling oil, not to
> mention as the pipelines and hardware begin to show wear and tear, like
> in Alaska, they could empty into the ocean and do further massive
> pollution.  There's no will so there's no way.  
> 
> No snow on the mountain tops in the UK, eh?  Interesting.  Lots of Alaska
> is now unfrozen as well.  Never mind, it's just hysteria. 
> 
> Regarding the moon space station, it's just practice for the real target,
> which is Mars.  The moon is a three day trip; Mars is three years.  I'm
> sure the intent is pure science, but given that NASA's information
> supports GW, I have to wonder if in the back of the scientists' minds
> there's not a glimmer of looking for another planet because earth is not
> a given anymore.  Sounds too weird, I know, but I remember way back when
> Carl Sagan in Cosmos commented on the possibility that we humans could
> destroy our blue green world, possibly the only place like it in the
> entire universe, and I thought, that's just science fiction, Carl.  Well,
> seems Carl was more prescient than anyone knew, or I guess even still
> knows.  Unfortunately for humans and fortunately for whatever planet is
> or isn't out there, we're adapted only for life on Earth so they're safe
> out there for now.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Steve Chilson <stevechilson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Dec 28, 2006 11:41 PM
> >To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Global warming claims tropical island
> >
> >This hysteria - global warming, google warming, is great entertainment
> >and I wish to thank Andy and those who take global warming hysteria
> >seriously enough to answer Andy. (like myself, apparently)
> >
> >I believe in the Ice Age.
> >
> >
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