In a message dated 7/27/2010 12:48:27 P.M., jejunejesuit.geary2@xxxxxxxxx explains, quoting from Steinbeck (this is a literary list) about what Steinbeck (this is a literary list) may have meant by 'unreal' (e.g. temperature, etc.). He (Geary) writes: "Actually I was referring to the Heat Index as being the unreal temperature in contrast to the actual thermometer reading which is the real temperature." --- The source being not Hegel, but Bradley, "Appearance and Reality" -- Book II, section 3 --. ad 4. ("Sensa and Realia"). Geary adds a reference to Vaihinger ("Die philosophie des als ob"): "The "feels like" temperature is for drama queens who want to complain more than they have a right to. Mike Geary getting real in Memphis " ------ In "Philosophie des als ob", as Geary notes, a distinction is drawn ("Appendix, B") between: 'seems' 'seems to be' 'feels' and 'feels like'. A woman may be hot. She may SEEM hot. She may seem to BE hot. And she may FEEL (like) hot, too. All this Vahinger expressed in German. Speranza Bordighera ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html