[lit-ideas] Re: F*ckland

Well.  I suppose 'argie' could be OK, JL, it all depends.  Taffy is I'd say 
usually but not always offensive. Paki is really out of order.



> In La Plata,  where I was born, the British
> 'consul' was indeed one 
> Puleston, who have land in  Wales. He was
> 'friendly' referred to as "Taffy 
> Puleston" by the ignorant argies  if you can believe
> that!

:) -- would they call the Patagonian Welsh/Welsh Patagonians Taffy?

more on Taffy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taffy_was_a_Welshman

> "Turk, 'an aggressive 
> person', it read, "fig." (as in "My
> child is a  little Turk, he is". This was 
> later dropped). 

"little Turk' rings a bell, but I can't work out why.  This was the first 
discussion I found:



http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=670231

Judy Evans, Cardiff, UK


--- On Sat, 25/4/09, Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [lit-ideas] F*ckland
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Saturday, 25 April, 2009, 12:13 AM
> In a message dated 4/24/2009 5:00:29 P.M.  Eastern Daylight
> Time, 
> judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> Same as  "Argies," a neutral
> > term.
> 
> I wouldn't call it neutral. I'd never  heard it
> before the Falklands War.
> 
> ----
> 
> Good point,  Judy.
> 
> Incidentally, Steven Berkoff (whom I met in Buenos Aires, 
> post-Falkland, 
> touring with, of all things, The Brit Council with
> "Shakespeare  Villains" a 
> one man show where he played well, er, the Shakespeare
> villains) has  a 
> play, "Sink the Belgrano!" -- very rude.
> 
> I trust "Argentine" is a  _long_ term for a
> nationality. Or rather, grant 
> it. "Argie" can indeed be  friendly. Same as
> "Paki" as uttered by Prince 
> Harry, I suspect.
> 
> Limey,  too, but "Taffy" _would_ be very
> derogatory for Welsh. 
> 
> In La Plata,  where I was born, the British
> 'consul' was indeed one 
> Puleston, who have land in  Wales. He was
> 'friendly' referred to as "Taffy 
> Puleston" by the ignorant argies  if you can believe
> that!
> 
> Myself, since I have an Italian passport, I  could also be
> called "Tano" 
> which is a very derogatory way in Argieland to refer  to
> "Italians" -- 
> 'gringo' is another -- 'tano' being short
> for 'Napolitano'  where all are supposed 
> to hail from (not my family though).
> 
> F*ckland,  sorry for the expletive, was a political film
> made in Argentina 
> about an  Argentine (or Argentinian, but that sounds like
> Palestinian) who 
> goes to the  islands to breed with the 'kelpers'. 
> 
> Fascinating subject, nationality  terms. I treasure an
> anecdote Burchfield 
> tells in his book by Faber & Faber  on the OED:
> "Turk, 'an aggressive 
> person', it read, "fig." (as in "My
> child is a  little Turk, he is". This was 
> later dropped). 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> JLS  
> 
>



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