I would furthermore argue that 'headcounts' are necessary for any form of discourse that aspires to 'solid content'. My final point would be that 'headcounts' are not a matter of numbers but an indicator of the coherence and veracity of that which aspires to 'solid content'. You are raising special cases of headcount--the headcount among experts in a given field--and substituting it for the way headcount was intended in our discussion. In the context of our discussion, the solid content of a religious viewpoint is not illustrated by the number of adherents. Mere headcount does not make headway, since at any given time the majority opinion may favor phlogiston, Chaldean magic, fire worship, or votive sacrifices to the volcano god. The number of adherents to fundamentalism does not make it any more respectable, and again, to say so is to confuse headcount with headway. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html