[lit-ideas] Re: Experience of War
- From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 23:43:14 -0400
Unbearable violence also shuts people down. It's the very thing that
creates perpetrators. It's the very thing that created Stalin, the extreme
beatings that he got from his father. So you're saying that Lawrence is
shut down? That's consistent with his constantly reverting to the safer
cerebral area that doesn't involve emotions. If that's the case, then
that's all the more reason one doesn't fight a war, because the people
running it are incapable of being truly rational, again using Stalin or
Hitler or Saddam as an example. To be truly rational one needs to be able
to feel.
> [Original Message]
> From: Eric Yost <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 5/8/2006 11:25:05 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Experience of War
>
> Andyrene: Clearly your military experience was not
> negative enough that it turned you off to war.
>
>
> In October 2001 I was at a dinner party with some
> elderly Russian guys who had survived the battle
> of Stalingrad. After General Paulus was captured,
> they were forced on the offensive against the
> Nazis. In the battles that followed, they were
> captured, made to work as slave labor for the
> Nazis during the retreat West, ended up in
> Nordhausen complex next to the extermination camp
> at Dora. Starved and beaten, bombed by the Allies,
> they were eventually liberated by a detachment of
> black GIs from Harlem. They lived in Displaced
> Person's Camps in Europe for six years, and
> emigrated to America. After settling in New York,
> they were conscripted and fought in the Korean War.
>
> The Afghanistan Invasion was looming. Their
> solution to the conflict? The suggestion of these
> not-so-new New Yorkers to the Taliban? The two
> cents from these old guys who had seen countless
> deaths and unimaginable suffering?
>
> Line up a million troops with machineguns from the
> north to the south of the country, transverse it,
> killing everything who moved.
>
> Granted it's old-style Soviet strategy, but the
> sentiment was there. You don't let a bunch of
> sunstruck quasireligious madmen violate your
> country without consequences.
>
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