[lit-ideas] Re: Europe's future, catastrophic or apocalyptic

  • From: "Judith Evans" <judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 17:49:50 +0100

TP>> Reading the interview, I still think she is silly.

She begins

>(interviewer)So introduce us briefly to the menace in Europe.

>Berlinksi: In brief: Europeans are lazy, unwilling to fight for
anything
>and willing to surrender to anyone; they are fascinated by
>decadence; they favor the bureaucracy over the corporation;
>they are unable to assimilate their immigrants; they no longer
>have children; they no longer produce much of cultural or
>scientific significance; they have lost their religious vocation
>and they no longer hold their lives to be meaningful.

(I can't be bothered to say anything)

> "some forty percent of Muslims in Britain, when
> polled, say they would favor the imposition of
> sharia."
> Q10 in the page
>
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2006/Sunday%20Telegraph%20-%20Mulims%20Feb/Sunday%20Telegraph%20Muslims%20feb06.asp
> Note that the question as I read  it does not mean
> sharia would take precedence over UK law.

thanks for the link, Teemu.  I thought I'd quote the question

"Would you support or oppose there being areas of Britain which
are pre-dominantly Muslim and in which Sharia Law is introduced?"

It's vague but I am fairly sure it means sharia law would be
introduced
alongside UK civil and criminal law. There's also the issue of
what's
meant by sharia law as it varies tremendously.

now Q12:

>I would now like to ask you to think about the Muslim cleric,
>Abu Hamza, who last week was sentenced for 7 years in
> prison after being found guilty of incitement to murder
> and race hatred. Do you think he received a fair or unfair...
>Prosecution

Fair 52%
Unfair 25%
Refused/Don't know 23%

(and so on)

TP> It tells something of the pollsters that there was no
> "I like Western society" option.

It's the Torygraph.  Enough said.

> "There are more worshippers in Britain's mosques now
> than in the Church of England, and there are more
> practicing Moslems in France than there are baptized
> Catholics."
TP> Given that Muslim populations is 2.8% in UK and less
> than 10% in France, I seriously doubt these figures,
> even if Church attendance is very low in both
> countries.

The UK one's possible, but so what?

> And so and so on. I am not going to waste one more
> time with someone that is obviously statistically
> illiterate.

particularly when they also froth at the mouth (otherwise one
might be kind about their methodological weaknesses).

Judy Evans, Cardiff

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