Hi, I suppose the quip that Irene/Andy has in mind is this: "What one does in moderation, others will excuse in excess." It's actually something that I learned in a Christian training class for people who might *someday* want to be parents or who were already parents or who wanted to get their lives 'right' with their parents/kids. It's sometimes a useful principle to pay attention to...and has been used to advocate certain positions such as Andy/Irene's. As in the spanking issue, that way of thinking/principle is often used to explain why there should be no alcohol. At all. That there should be laws to state that there should be none sold and that if you sell it or buy it, you ought to be jailed/arrested. In fact, when Irene/Andy drinks alcohol while watching a movie or serve it at a party--then she/he is saying to the rest of the world that it is okay to drink alchohol no matter what the reaction to your body will be, or how much you will drink. It should be illegal for Irene/Andy and her husband to drink wine while watching movies. Or to serve it during one of their parties. When she does it, she is advocating alcholism, drunk driving, underage drinking, etc etc. There are no limits on it because she is advocating it when she/he is even drinking in moderation. If it was illegal to drink alcohol, there would be no drunk driving, no underage drinking, no alcoholism, etc etc. Hoping Andy/Irene is tossing out the wine she just bought for the weekend and expecting the start of a new prohibition movement, Marlena in Missouri -----Original Message----- From: Andy Amago <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:58:44 -0500 Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: English Pubic Schools ----- Original Message ----- From: To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 2/17/2006 9:41:37 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: English Pubic Schools In a message dated 2/17/2006 6:59:34 A.M. Central Standard Time, aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: My point is that there needs to be a blanket law of you keep your hands to yourself no matter what. Then there will be no extensive beatings. Hi, Irene, It is already illegal to do extensive beatings. ***If it was illegal to do any beatings, there would be no extensive beatings.