[lit-ideas] Re: Didn't I tell you so?

There's defending one's self and then there's obsessing about it with a little 
paranoia thrown in.  The inner cities are full of people who need to defend 
themselves.  Guns make it possible.  
   
  

Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
                Silly question ? doesn?t make any sense and probably isn?t even 
true.   A gun is a tool like a power saw or a portable drill.  This was a very 
important tool for our ancestors ? at least my ancestors ? coming across the 
west.  I learned to shoot an M1 (the tool current at the time) in the Marine 
Corps.  
   
  Why are men attracted to cars, motorcycles, boats,  power mowers, and to 
large Plasma TVs . . . more than to guns?
   
  Why are women attracted to cell phones?
   
  A better question to ask would be why so many people think its better to be 
defenseless when there is a tool available that could change that for them.  
Lest you ascend a high horse and argue that no one needs to defend him or 
herself, I recall a report on some anti-gun senators with gun-toting 
body-guards and wonder why they needed guns if what they were saying was true.
   
  It?s a characteristic of our Liberal-Democracy that we retain the right to 
defend ourselves.  I can think of several sorts of people who would like us to 
disarm ? none of them up to any good.
   
  Lawrence
   
      
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  From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:55 PM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Didn't I tell you so?

   
    That still leaves unanswered the question as to why guys are drawn to guns 
in the first place.

     

    

Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

      I haven?t heard anyone address the most important question: had these 
guys, the ones whose testosterone went up, ever fired guns before.  So much 
myth has been created in recent years about guns; they probably had little or 
no experience with guns and thought they were doing something dangerous.  

     

    I was a rifle instructor in the Marine Corps, have a fair amount of 
experience with guns and doubt very seriously if my testosterone goes up when I 
go up a local canyon to do a little target shooting.  I actually think of it as 
a bit of a nuisance, but something I ought to do from time to time.  

     

    I gave a nephew of mine a Browning Hi-Power last November and replaced it 
with a CZ-75 P-01.  When he was out here last week-end he was surprised to 
learn that I hadn?t fired it yet.  I told him I was having a custom holster 
made and hadn?t received it yet.  He said there was no way he would have a gun 
for six months without ever firing it.  Now his testosterone might go up while 
firing a gun.  He hasn?t fired a gun all that much, and he is only 21.

     

    Lawrence

     

      
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    From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol Kirschenbaum
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 12:57 PM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Didn't I tell you so?


     

      Fifteen minutes later, the psychologists again measured testosterone 
levels and discovered high levels in men who had had handled the gun, with 
levels remaining steady in those working with the board game.


        ck: Clearly we need to send murderous dictators and bored brutes 
multiple sets of Monopoly, Chutes and Ladders, and Scrabble. (Chess comes 
later.)  I wonder which world big shot would be willing to dare peace by board 
game. My bet's on Jimmy Carter. I'm ready for volunteer duty, btw.


      Carol, 


      living on the ol' St. James Place


       


       


       


       


       


       


       


      ----- Original Message ----- 


      From: Paul Stone 


      To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 


      Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:51 AM


      Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Didn't I tell you so?


       


      The students were seated, one at a time, at a table in a bare room. On 
the table were pieces of paper and either the board game Mouse Trap or a large 
handgun. Their instructions: Take apart the game or the gun and write 
directions for assembly and disassembly.

Fifteen minutes later, the psychologists again measured testosterone levels and 
discovered high levels in men who had had handled the gun, with levels 
remaining steady in those working with the board game.

    
Proof that Rube Goldberg machines cause chemical castration. 

p

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Paul Stone
pas@xxxxxxxx
Kingsville, ON, Canada 

   
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