[lit-ideas] Re: Didn't I tell you so?

  • From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 14:24:16 -0700

Silly question - doesn't make any sense and probably isn't even true.   A
gun is a tool like a power saw or a portable drill.  This was a very
important tool for our ancestors - at least my ancestors - coming across the
west.  I learned to shoot an M1 (the tool current at the time) in the Marine
Corps.  

 

Why are men attracted to cars, motorcycles, boats,  power mowers, and to
large Plasma TVs . . . more than to guns?

 

Why are women attracted to cell phones?

 

A better question to ask would be why so many people think its better to be
defenseless when there is a tool available that could change that for them.
Lest you ascend a high horse and argue that no one needs to defend him or
herself, I recall a report on some anti-gun senators with gun-toting
body-guards and wonder why they needed guns if what they were saying was
true.

 

It's a characteristic of our Liberal-Democracy that we retain the right to
defend ourselves.  I can think of several sorts of people who would like us
to disarm - none of them up to any good.

 

Lawrence

 

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From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:55 PM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Didn't I tell you so?

 

That still leaves unanswered the question as to why guys are drawn to guns
in the first place.

 



Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I haven't heard anyone address the most important question: had these guys,
the ones whose testosterone went up, ever fired guns before.  So much myth
has been created in recent years about guns; they probably had little or no
experience with guns and thought they were doing something dangerous.  

 

I was a rifle instructor in the Marine Corps, have a fair amount of
experience with guns and doubt very seriously if my testosterone goes up
when I go up a local canyon to do a little target shooting.  I actually
think of it as a bit of a nuisance, but something I ought to do from time to
time.  

 

I gave a nephew of mine a Browning Hi-Power last November and replaced it
with a CZ-75 P-01.  When he was out here last week-end he was surprised to
learn that I hadn't fired it yet.  I told him I was having a custom holster
made and hadn't received it yet.  He said there was no way he would have a
gun for six months without ever firing it.  Now his testosterone might go up
while firing a gun.  He hasn't fired a gun all that much, and he is only 21.

 

Lawrence

 


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From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Carol Kirschenbaum
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 12:57 PM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Didn't I tell you so?

 

Fifteen minutes later, the psychologists again measured
<http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-200605
09-12562400-bc-us-gunhormones.xml> testosterone levels and discovered high
levels in men who had had handled the gun, with levels remaining steady in
those working with the board game.

ck: Clearly we need to send murderous dictators and bored brutes multiple
sets of Monopoly, Chutes and Ladders, and Scrabble. (Chess comes later.)  I
wonder which world big shot would be willing to dare peace by board game. My
bet's on Jimmy Carter. I'm ready for volunteer duty, btw.

Carol, 

living on the ol' St. James Place

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Paul Stone <mailto:pas@xxxxxxxx>  

To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:51 AM

Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Didn't I tell you so?

 

The students were seated, one at a time, at a table in a bare room. On the
table were pieces of paper and either the board game Mouse Trap or a large
handgun. Their instructions: Take apart the game or the gun and write
directions for assembly and disassembly.

Fifteen minutes later, the psychologists again measured
<http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-200605
09-12562400-bc-us-gunhormones.xml> testosterone levels and discovered high
levels in men who had had handled the gun, with levels remaining steady in
those working with the board game.


Proof that Rube Goldberg machines cause chemical castration. 

p

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Paul Stone
pas@xxxxxxxx
Kingsville, ON, Canada 

 

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