Free Dictionary gives the following definitions of "self" 1. The total, essential, or particular being of a person; the individual: "An actor's instrument is the self" Joan Juliet Buck. 2. The essential qualities distinguishing one person from another; individuality: "He would walk a little first along the southern walls, shed his European self, fully enter this world" Howard Kaplan. 3. One's consciousness of one's own being or identity; the ego: "For some of us, the self's natural doubts are given in mesmerizing amplification by way of critics' negative assessments of our writing" Joyce Carol Oates. 4. One's own interests, welfare, or advantage: thinking of self alone. 5. Immunology That which the immune system identifies as belonging to the body: tissues no longer recognized as self. pron. Myself, yourself, himself, or herself: a living wage for self and family. adj. 1. Of the same character throughout. 2. Of the same material as the article with which it is used: a dress with a self belt. 3. Obsolete Same or identical. Comments: 1. The definition "The total, essential, or particular being of a person" strikes me as being in danger of Donal's infinite regress. Surely it does not explain or clarify anything. "the individual" seems more intelligible but if the self means nothing more than a sense of individuality surely that existed in all historical periods and cultures. 2. "The essential qualities distinguishing one person from another" This seems more clear but strips the self of any content other than purely negative, i.e. the "self" is nothing more than what is not another person. 3. "One's consciousness of one's own being or identity" Again, "being" and "identity" call to be further defined, as well as "consciousness." There is also a danger of circularity since it's not clear whether "personal being" or "identity" can be defined independently of self or consciousness. Note that the "self" (as in "himself," "herself" ) is also used as a pronoun or anaphora, i.e. it has no fixed content when used in this way. Tricky term, "self." O.K. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html