[lit-ideas] Re: Conscious after the fact?
- From: Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:19:51 -0700 (PDT)
"Now, where did my coffee go? Who decided to drink it?"
Peer pressure, like smoking? Who in their right mind would smoke? The
illusion of free choice...
--- On Sun, 6/29/08, John McCreery <john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: John McCreery <john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Conscious after the fact?
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 4:05 PM
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Phil Enns <phil.enns@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Curious use of the word 'decision'. Can I make a decision and never
know it?
I don't know about Phil Enns, but I do all the time. Consider, for example, my
behavior as I check and respond to my e-mail. When I start there is a full cup
of coffee sitting beside my laptop. Then comes a moment when I reach out for
another swallow of coffee and realize that the cup is empty. Plainly I have
repeatedly been reaching out, picking up the cup and taking sips of coffee
without being aware of these actions until the absence of coffee interrupts my
routine.
Phil could say, of course, "Those aren't decisions; they are only habitual
behaviors." In making this statement he will appeal to the prototype of
rational decision making in which, ideally, the decider is conscious throughout
the process. This is the view that finds its apotheosis in instructions on how
to make rational decisions that assume (1) clear options, (2) processes for
assigning value to those options, and (3) a rule that says to choose the option
whose value is greatest, being mindful of all the lesser decisions that go into
(1') distinguishing among the options, (2') following precisely the prescribed
processes, and (3') calculating and comparing values.
There now are, however, numerous lines of research that converge on the
proposition that most of life's choices are not made in this way. A few that I
have mentioned before include recognition-primed decision making (Gary Klein),
behavioral economics (Amos Tversky, Daniel Kahneman), affective politics
(George E. Marcus, W. Russell Neuman, Michael MacKuen), sociology (Pierre
Bourdieu), cognitive science (Marvin Minsky, et al.). All wrestle, while
starting from various disciplinary starting points, with a process familiar to
mystics, coaches, language and music teachers, and martial arts instructors; to
anyone, in fact, who seeks the state that Zen masters call no-self, in which
correct and effective response to fluid situations occurs without conscious
awareness.
Complicating the debate is the fact that both cognitive scientists and brain
studies folk conceptualize the mainly unconscious processes involved in all the
activities mentioned above in terms of "decision points" and "decision trees"
and are, of course, intensely mindful of the details of the models they are
constructing. It thus becomes perfectly natural for them to speak of decisions
being made of which the deciding subject is wholly or partially unaware.
Now, where did my coffee go? Who decided to drink it?
John
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