[lit-ideas] Re: Conscious after the fact?
- From: wokshevs@xxxxxx
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:30:41 -0230
When you make claims like that you have to consider the question as to the
epistemic justifiablity of your claims and reasons for them. If your claims and
reasons are the result of "compulsions" and the "unconcsious" - as you yourself
acknowledge - then your audience wonders after the epistemic grounds of your
claims. If your views have their source in biographical factors, then your
views cannot be deemed to be impartial and objective. As such, you exclude
yourself from the forum of public reason.
Walter O.
MUN
Quoting Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx>:
> "Their findings challenge conventional notions of choice."
>
> I've said for years that we don't make choices. We have only compulsions..
> The unconscious rules, and most of it's in place before age 6. A child knows
> if its environment is trustworthy by age 9 months. We are driven throughout
> our lives by decisions, not "decisions", but decisions that we make in
> infancy and early childhood, and of course those decisions, all of them
> unconscious, are gelled in later childhood and adolescence, including
> decisions to go to war. But of course, let's all now howl that our rights to
> brainlessly plunk out a kid are being infringed and that's the end of the
> discussion.
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> --- On Sun, 6/29/08, John McCreery <john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> From: John McCreery <john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Conscious after the fact?
> To: "Lit-Ideas" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "ANTHRO-L"
> <ANTHRO-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 3:30 AM
>
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> We have known at least since Leibniz's New Essays on Human Understanding that
> there must be mental processes of which we are unconscious. How else, Leibniz
> asks, could a ringing bell wake us? We must hear it before we are aware of
> its sound.
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> Now neuroscientists suggest that we make decisions up to 10 seconds before we
> are conscious of making them. See
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> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121450609076407973.html?mod=blogs
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> John
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>
> --
> John McCreery
> The Word Works, Ltd., Yokohama, JAPAN
> Tel. +81-45-314-9324
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