[lit-ideas] Re: Comparative religion
- From: John McCreery <mccreery@xxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:53:11 +0900
On 2005/03/10, at 13:21, JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Okay. Someone explain to me what cultural or historical or political=20=
> or
> whatever reasons have caused the eastern religions to be inclusive=20
> and the
> western religions to be exclusive. I won't ask, yet, where the=20
> middle-easterners
> fit in.
Peter Junger has already answered, correctly in my view, that the real=20=
question is the origin of monotheism. Anthropologically speaking,=20
polytheism is far and away the human norm.
I note, too, that "inclusive" is a tricky word. In modern left-liberal=20=
parlance it carries a kind of warm and beneficent glow that may be=20
entirely inappropriate for the kinds of interactions that result in the=20=
syncretism to which polytheistic traditions are, perhaps, more open=20
than monotheistic ones. Polytheists at war with each other are a=20
common feature of most of human history. The history of Greece and Rome=20=
is full of familiar examples. See also the interactions of Taoists and=20=
Buddhists during the Tang Dynasty in China. The parties were often in=20
open conflict, competing for the favor of the current Emperor and=20
urging that the other be banished from court, if not expunged entirely=20=
from the menu of Chinese religious. At the same time, on an=20
intellectual plane their theorists were borrowing ideas from each=20
other.
One thing that may be hard for those raised in monotheistic traditions=20=
to realize is how radically polytheism changes the notion of "god."=20
When a god (or goddess) is no longer, unique, all-knowing,=20
all-powerful, many of the intellectual conundrums that plague Christian=20=
and Muslim theology fall away. There is no need to ask, for example,=20
how an all-powerful God can allow the presence of evil in the world.=20
Particular human troubles may simply be the result of different gods=20
playing favorites or lining up on different sides of human conflicts.=20
(See, for examples, the Iliad.)
It is even possible to regard gods from a thoroughly pragmatic=20
perspective. Here, then, is a wonderful example from historian of=20
Chinese religion Valerie Hansen,
> One day Li Mama told me she had gone to pray to a new god. I asked her=20=
> why she had decided to pray to that particular deity, and she replied=20=
> that the deity was ling. As I had never heard the word before, Li Mama=20=
> explained that a god was ling when he or she responded to requests.=20
> People in Taipei usually prayed when sick, or before taking the=20
> competitive college entrance examinations, or when hoping for a child.=20=
> And if the deity cured them, or enabled them to get into a good=20
> university, or brought them a son, then that particular deity was=20
> ling. Li Mama had visited this new temple hoping that the god was=20
> ling, but if he was not, then she would go to another god. Her point=20=
> was clear: people pray to gods to get things done, and they judge gods=20=
> on the basis of their ability to perform miracles. (Hansen, 1990,=20
> Changing Gods in Medieval China 1127-1276), p. ix)
Cheers,
John McCreery
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