[lit-ideas] Re: Chasing Mohammed
- From: Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:55:41 -0800
Yes, this is an interesting article. Pim Fortuyn said things to the
same effect. As I read articles and comments about the various
European nations in regard to their immigrants, I get the impression
that they are doing a good deal of floundering. The ordinary
citizens don't like what is going on, but they don't know what to do
about it. The Dutch have a national identity they are proud of, but
they also have a belief in Liberalism and Tolerance; so in principle
they believe in accepting Muslim immigrants, but then they don't
really accept them because they aren't Dutch and the immigrants don't
really seem to want to become Dutch, most of them -- at least they
don't try as hard to become Dutch as the Dutch think they
should. Surely it is one of the world's greatest honors to be Dutch,
but these Muslims prefer to be something else. I have read that many
Dutch are emigrating because they can't accept these Muslim
immigrants who are making life miserable for them by . . . not being
Dutch. A few like Fortuyn and Wilders have taken an aggressive
stance against Muslim immigration. Their numbers could grow if
things get worse as some observers say they must.
Lawrence
At 12:59 PM 2/25/2007, you wrote:
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:30:43 -0500, Lawrence Helm
<lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Notice that there is no credence given to the enemy being real.
There's a strange article in Reuters today, showing there is at least some
Dutch resistance to loss of national identity. It's way over the top.
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2007-02-24T214937Z_01_L2429371_RTRUKOC_0_US-DUTCH-ISLAM.xml&src=rss&rpc=22
Geert Wilders said in an interview with the Dutch daily NRC Handelsblad
the appointment of Moroccan-born Ahmed Aboutaleb and Turkish-born Nebahat
Albayrak as junior ministers was wrong because both could have loyalties
toward countries other than the Netherlands.
In Saturday's interview, Wilders said: "I do not want to live in a country
where some day six or seven members of cabinet could be Muslim," adding
that Islamic laws were "barbaric", referring to four people who were
beheaded in Saudi-Arabia this week.
"I want to encourage Muslims to leave the Netherlands voluntarily. The
demographic development should become such, that the chance is small that
we again have two Muslims in the cabinet." About 1 million Muslims live in
the Netherlands out of a population of 16 million.
Last week Wilders called on Muslims to ditch half the teachings in the
Koran and said he would chase Islam's Prophet Mohammad out of the country
if he were alive today. The Iranian embassy called those remarks
"spiteful", while the Saudi Arabian embassy held talks over the comments
with Dutch foreign ministry officials.
____
The strangest part of the article was the brief reference to Pim Fortuyn.
It could be an E-mail signature:
Maverick politician Fortuyn broke taboos with his criticism of Muslim
immigrants before he was murdered by an animal rights activist.
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:30:43 -0500, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Notice that there is no credence given to the enemy being real.
There's a strange article in Reuters today, showing there is at least some Dutch resistance to loss of national identity. It's way over the top. http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2007-02-24T214937Z_01_L2429371_RTRUKOC_0_US-DUTCH-ISLAM.xml&src=rss&rpc=22 Geert Wilders said in an interview with the Dutch daily NRC Handelsblad the appointment of Moroccan-born Ahmed Aboutaleb and Turkish-born Nebahat Albayrak as junior ministers was wrong because both could have loyalties toward countries other than the Netherlands. In Saturday's interview, Wilders said: "I do not want to live in a country where some day six or seven members of cabinet could be Muslim," adding that Islamic laws were "barbaric", referring to four people who were beheaded in Saudi-Arabia this week. "I want to encourage Muslims to leave the Netherlands voluntarily. The demographic development should become such, that the chance is small that we again have two Muslims in the cabinet." About 1 million Muslims live in the Netherlands out of a population of 16 million. Last week Wilders called on Muslims to ditch half the teachings in the Koran and said he would chase Islam's Prophet Mohammad out of the country if he were alive today. The Iranian embassy called those remarks "spiteful", while the Saudi Arabian embassy held talks over the comments with Dutch foreign ministry officials. ____ The strangest part of the article was the brief reference to Pim Fortuyn. It could be an E-mail signature: Maverick politician Fortuyn broke taboos with his criticism of Muslim immigrants before he was murdered by an animal rights activist. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html
- [lit-ideas] New Politics Magazine
- From: Lawrence Helm
- [lit-ideas] Chasing Mohammed
- From: Eric Yost