[lit-ideas] Re: Bullying Iran - New York Times
- From: "Simon Ward" <sedward@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:29:31 -0000
You're verging into Rummy speak - worrying.
I did enjoy the Berlin statement; MOIS is really secretive, nobody knows
much about it at all, and they're responsible for 450 acts of terrorism. It
also concerns me that a major source on the organisation is Iranian
Resistance. I would have thought that the Chalabi debacle was enough for one
decade.
That said, I agree with you, there's so much going on under the surface that
to take any statement from a major player as fact is only to accept another
strand of propaganda. If the US says that Iran is responsible for the
majority of the violence in Iraq, does that tell us more about the US than
it does about what Iran is actually doing, and further, how do they actually
know this (if indeed it's true).
By the way, my statement about the CIA involvement was itself a fabrication;
it was self-sourced. Of course it was based on common sense, but I've read
nothing on CIA involvement in the middle east. Which goes to show the
dangers of accepting editorialised statements at face value.
Simon
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From: "Eric" <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Bullying Iran - New York Times
Simon: ... the role the US secret services are playing pitting Sunni
against Shia in various parts of the middle east.
I hope we all live long enough to read declassified accounts of what's
actually happening now. So many actors on the stage!
For example, we know, or perhaps only think we know, that Chalabi tipped
the Iranians off on the extent of our intercepts. He let them know that we
had cracked the Iranian Intelligence Service secret codes ... remember
that brief newsbite from years ago? What were the ramifications? Was it a
setup or was it real?
While still DCI, Tenet testified to Congress that Hez (as Iranian proxy)
was more sophisticated and dangerous than al-Qaeda -- was the organization
al-Qaeda was trying to become. What did he know when he said that?
Finally the Iranian Intel people are considered formidable. Here's a web
bite:
Berlin, May 06 – Iran’s Ministry of Intelligence and Security (MOIS) is
ranked by experts as one of the largest and most active intelligence
agencies in the Middle East, having masterminded 450 acts of terrorism
throughout the world since the 1980s, yet it has been shrouded in so much
mystery that apart from the occasional revelations by the Iranian
Resistance, little has ever been made public about its operations and
functions. Its secret budget and unchecked power have turned it into one
of the key pillars of the Iranian theocracy.
The MOIS is also one of the most secretive agencies in the world and its
command structure is directly answerable to the Iranian regime’s Supreme
Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2020
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