My statement was theoretical, one of my many futile attempts to get Irene to think realistically. I don't believe you can turn them around. You can defeat them, but not turn them around. What I wrote to Irene just now was repeated and expanded in the interview of Bridget Gabriel posted by Judy. http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19016 . Irene should read that interview. Of course if there really were moderate Muslims as Omar once argued, they could be convinced to acknowledge Israel's right to exist. Too bad there aren't any, at lest not any in numbers worth mentioning. Once they become moderate, in the midst of people who define moderation as heresy: time to go. Lawrence _____ From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Stone Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 7:31 AM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Brigette Gabriel again supporting Israel LH: Get them to acknowledge Israels right to exist. How do you do that? Israel's 'right' to exist is not at all clear to the vast majority of the people in that area. How would you turn them around on that Lawrence? Paul ########## Paul Stone pas@xxxxxxxx Kingsville, ON, Canada