[lit-ideas] Re: Beard's The Rise of American Civilization

  • From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 07:27:22 -0500

Last comments.  Economic motives did drive the Civil War, absolutely 
definitely.  But, slavery drove the Southern economy.  It was an agricultural, 
slave based economy.  Without slaves, there was no economy.  It would be like 
the North being threatened with losing its factories.  It's also why the North, 
which was so much more powerful, took so long to win (plus they had inferior 
generals; my husband is a Civil War buff), because the South was fighting for 
its way of life.  The North was merely fighting for a cause, to keep the Union 
together.  Whether keeping the Union together was worth it is another question. 
 BTW, I think you started this thread over the New Orleans thing, states rights 
to government disaster relief.  You said NO wasn't entitled, the states had to 
do it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Lawrence Helm 
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 2/8/2006 1:58:41 AM 
Subject: [lit-ideas] Beard's The Rise of American Civilization


I checked through my library and discovered that the last book I read that 
treats the Civil War with some thoroughness was Charles and Mary Beard?s The 
Rise of American Civilization, 1930.  I read it in 2000 because it is 
considered something of a classic and I encountered reference to it in some 
book or review I had read.  Beard was a very good writer and a clever thinker, 
but he wasn?t highly respected by his peers because of his politics: 
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAbeardC.htm 

It strikes me as a bit ironic that I seem to be presenting something of a 
Marxist interpretation of the Civil War and those whom I would normally 
consider . . . closer to Marx than I am are arguing with me.  I?m not 
complaining ? just finding it ironic.

To suggest that Northerners were willing to go to war to free the slaves 
presents the North in a nobler light than I think justifiable.  There was the 
abolition movement to be sure, but it was never large enough to influence 
politics in a major way.  I suppose I was convinced by Beard that economic 
motives were driving both the North and the South.  The North had a good thing 
going and didn?t want to lose it.  The South felt it was being economically 
squeezed beyond endurance.  

Lincoln was a president who was resolved to do the right thing as he saw it, 
and he saw pretty clearly, no matter what.

Lawrence

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