Even if philosophy is basically for the few, and even if most of it won't help me understand the world, that doesn't invalidate it as a discipline. For what it's worth, just thought I'd mention it. Andy <min.erva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: In my opinion, unless that activity can be useful in some way, it doesn't rise above a bunch of isms . I said quite the opposite of philosophy lying in the material realm. I said it lies in the intellectual realm, only I called it the spirit. As such it would seem to comprise different frameworks with which to understand reality. Unfortunately, the frameworks are necessarily non-empirical. Going back to that movie, can philosophy help me to understand it, to put it into some sort of perspective? Possibly, but I suspect that's not the reason for being of philosophy. It exists for itself, a game for the few. I didn't see a course entitled "Applied Philosophy". Now that would be interesting. --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.