[lit-ideas] Re: Aren't you glad you no longer have a Hitler problem?
- From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:38:10 -0700
Having had two wives and three daughters I am of course capable of being
brow-beaten into doing things I don't want to do, but my left arm is sore
today so I am being firm - sort of. I described a mishap with my dogs on
June 4th. My arm has been slowly improving. Yesterday I decided to
exercise with moderate weights and am paying for it today; so I am
restricting myself to short and infrequent notes. But I really have
explained that we are at war and need to fight back. War was declared
against us by various leaders of the Islamist viewpoint. We have been
attacked a number of times and during the first Bush administration and
Clinton administration didn't respond with enough force to cause Islamists
to think we were any more than a paper tiger. We are doing much better
during this administration, and while the Islamists can no longer question
our fighting ability, they question our fortitude. And that's a good
question.
A lot of our cards are too close to the administration's chest to make good
press, but there may be good reason for that. The main thing is that we
have prevented further attacks of the 9/11 sort and that we are wearing down
Al Queda and other militants. If we have the fortitude we can probably
defeat them, but I doubt that we do. Too many with Alzheimer's or ADD have
forgotten what it is like to fight a war. They think it is okay to root for
the enemy. You do remember what the word "enemy" means don't you Irene?
Lawrence
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On Behalf Of Andy Amago
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 2:03 PM
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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Aren't you glad you no longer have a Hitler
problem?
Nope, this is your way of saying that you can't defend your statement or
even say why you capitalized the words for emphasis. I accept that. And
certainly such emotionalism is not unique in the world to you. It is, in
fact, the norm, and I bet you feel you have morality on your side to boot.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence <mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Helm
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 6/25/2006 4:51:07 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Aren't you glad you no longer have a Hitler
problem?
I suspect old people who cant remember what I say of Alzheimers. I
suspect younger people of ADD. In either case I have a principle of
repeating myself seven times and no more.
Lawrence
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From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Andy Amago
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 1:45 PM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Aren't you glad you no longer have a Hitler
problem?
Sorry, Lawrence, if you can't take the time to repeat or summarize what we
need to do after advocating FIGHTING BACK (your emphasis), then your
position is just empty emotionalism, a vague generalized fear, an obsession,
which you cannot support with specifics. And what do the capital letters
mean? Are you referring to a title of a book? If so, what does its author
advocate?
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence <mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Helm
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 6/25/2006 12:22:36 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Aren't you glad you no longer have a Hitler
problem?
No, no, Irene. Capital letters dont mean that at all. They mean the thing
that Ive been saying over and over again since 9/11. The thing you
shouldnt have to ask me about since Ive advocated it so incessantly.
Lawrence
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On Behalf Of Andy Amago
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 8:10 AM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Aren't you glad you no longer have a Hitler
problem?
Hitler as well as Pound admired Mussolini. Hitler patterned himself on
Mussolini. Mussolini's Black Shirts were the prototype for Hitler's Brown
Shirts (S.A.). Hitler had this thing for Mussolini (not the other way
around) and stood by him through Mussolini's 'adventures' in Ethiopia and
Greece. Their brands of fascism were very similar. Some historians say
that if Hitler hadn't spent so much energy on bailing Mussolini out of
Greece that he might have succeeded in Russia.
For Lawrence, you said in your post in big letters that we need to be
FIGHTING BACK. Your emphasis. Kindly supply specifics of how we are to do
that, i.e., politically, militarily, economically, just how? Surely if
you're advocating something in capital letters you have some idea of what
you're advocacy looks like?
> [Original Message]
> From: Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 6/25/2006 4:28:06 AM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Aren't you glad you no longer have a Hitler
problem?
>
> Omar writes that Ezra Pound supported Hitler. As far as I know, this is
> false. He was an admirer of Mussolini, and believed that he would be the
> salvation of Italy, and that Italy (not Germany) would be the salvation
> of Europe.
>
> Robert Paul
> Reed College
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