[lit-ideas] Re: Aren't you glad you no longer have a Hitler problem?

  • From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 21:00:15 -0400

Just wondering, what does "fighting back" mean?   


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Lawrence Helm 
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 6/24/2006 5:47:34 PM 
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Aren't you glad you no longer have a Hitler problem?


What you have provided in your note, Ursula is the Islamist party line.  It is 
also the Leftist party line.  America deserved to be attacked on 9/11.  Oh, you 
softened it by saying our actions had consequences but it amounts to the same 
thing.  Actually, this is utterly false.  A great literature exists describing 
the creation of Islamism.  We know how it originated and we know what it 
teaches.  The motivation for the attack against the U.S. on 9/11 does not lie 
in what the U.S. did.  It lies in what Islamism is.  It is a politico/religious 
ideology.  It argues that Allah has promised that Islam will spread throughout 
the world.  Sayyid Qutb as the most articulate spokesman argued that the Jihad 
should be used to advance the true belief within Islamic countries and within 
the countries of the infidel.  

Leftists have provided an overlay of this and argued, well, yes, they say it is 
religious but that is just their way of expressing their Marxist revolutionary 
spirit.  But that is nonsense.  Nothing in their writings or in their actions 
implies that they are motivated by Marxist ideology.  Their motivation is 
religious.  It is a Fundamentalist form of Islam that emphasizes a militant 
advance of their beliefs.  

Al Quaeda was formed at the end of the war in Afghanistan, after the defeat of 
the USSR.  They believe this great victory indicated Allah?s approval.  And if 
they could defeat the USSR, the US should be even simpler because the US was 
afraid to fight.  Osama described in some speeches how the U.S. ran away on 
several occasions whereas he and his followers embrace death.  They are not 
afraid to die and so the US cannot stand against them.  This is straight Sayyid 
Qutb ideology taught to Osama by Sayyid?s brother, Mohhamad.  Also, this 
ideology is widely believed throughout the Middle East.  It isn?t embraced by 
just a few ?gangs? as Mike argues.  It is a widespread belief and it favors the 
Jihad and terrorist attacks as a way to further the Islamic cause.  

Read Sayyid Qutb.  He has written voluminously.  Qutb came to the US and 
studied at a college in Colorado where he developed a negative opinion of 
Americans.  They are a decadent people.  But his opinion isn?t what modern 
Leftists would have us believe today.  9/11 wasn?t a response to anything the 
US did.  It was a response to what the US is ? a nation of infidels.  All 
infidels must convert or be destroyed.  There is no other way as far as 
militant Islam is concerned.  As far as some of us in the US are concerned, 
however, there is another way.  I know you won?t approve, but it?s called 
FIGHTING BACK.  It?s tough to do with so many in America routing for America?s 
enemies, but some are trying to do it anyway.

Lawrence

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