You're right. I should have said supported him. It's common knowledge. We supported Iraq during the Iran/Iraq war. There are pictures of Bush Sr. shaking his hand. I'll find some links for you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Helm To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 6/24/2006 3:55:45 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Aren't you delighted you no longer have a Hitler problem? No, I don?t Irene and I?ve read several books on the subject. Tell me pray do how the U.S. installed Saddam Hussein. Lawrence From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Amago Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 12:51 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Aren't you delighted you no longer have a Hitler problem? Unmentioned by Lawrence is that the U.S. installed Saddam Hussein. Do you know anything about that Lawrence? ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Helm To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 6/24/2006 3:35:59 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Aren't you delighted you no longer have a Hitler problem? To paraphrase what you wrote, Yes, yes. . . Adolf Hitler was a fascist-type dictator, but he was no threat to America, and America had no moral or legal right to attack him. Didnt Hitler attack American shipping? Yes, but only because it was supporting one of Hitlers enemies. We should have left poor Hitler alone. Didnt Saddam Hussein fire on American planes flying over the Kurds and Shiites to keep Saddam from wrecking vengeance? Well, yeah, but America should have left poor Saddam alone to run his own country in his own way. Wasnt the U.S. and Iraq still technically at war? Sure, there was no end to the first Gulf War only a truce. Didnt the truce depend on Iraq meeting commitments it didnt meet? Yeah, sure but who is the U.S. to demand that poor Saddam meet those commitments? Let the pro-Saddam members of the Security Council in effect oppose holding Saddam to his commitments and that should have trumped Americas desire to be legalistic about them. Shame on Bush for having it in for poor Fascist Saddam who gassed the Kurds and Shiites and was supporting Islamist terror groups, and still threatened Kuwait and Saudi Arabia such that at least the latter refused to cooperate with our anti-Al-Quaida efforts because they were more afraid of Saddam than of us. Jimmy Carter is said to have never met a dictator he couldnt love; surely Bush could have learned to have loved Saddam. Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ursula Stange Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 10:55 AM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Aren't you delighted you no longer have a Hitler problem? Lawrence Helm wrote: > You guys would have been saying that Roosevelt was cooking up reasons > for going to war against Hitler as a smokescreen for his acquisition > of dictatorial powers or something like that. > > and: > > Do you agree that Saddam Hussein was a fascist-type dictator? > > Lawrence > Roosevelt was cooking up reasons for going to war against Hitler. Yes, yes...Saddam Hussein was a fascist-type dictator, but he was no threat to America, and America had no moral or legal right to attack him. One of the most grievously harmful things Bush has done is change the rules. By his legality and morality, the Islamists have both legal and moral right to attack the U.S. As have Iran and North Korea. And Haiti and Venezuela and .... The goose and the gander and all that... Jane Addams: The essence of immorality is the tendency to make an exception of myself. Ursula, who once visited Hull House ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html