[lit-ideas] Re: Aren't you delighted you no longer have a Hitler problem?
- From: "Judith Evans" <judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:05:21 +0100
Persia was parcelled up into spheres on influence by Imperial
Russia and Britain from 1907-17, and invaded by them both in
1918.
In 1920, the Soviet Republic of Gilan, officially known as the
Persian Socialist Soviet Republic, came into being (etc. etc.)
but lost support (because of the long history of Russian
interference
in the region and for other reasons). By 1921, following
an agreement reached between the Soviet Union and Britain,
the Soviet Union withdrew support from the SRG. As a result,
the Soviet-Iranian Friendship Treaty of 1921 was signed and
Russia
withdrew from Persia.
> If the terms of that treaty aren't evidence of some measure
> of control to you,
I haven't read the Soviet-Iranian Friendship Treaty, but
understand it
could indeed be used as a legal pretext for the USSR invading
Persia.
Do you know what, if anything, the British legal pretext was?
During the war, Stalin
> would NEVER venture outside areas of Soviet Control.
and Persia had been occupied by Britain and the US, acting as
Allied Powers, as a preventative measure against Reza Shah's
possible (probable?) support of the Axis, therefore, we can see
Persia and in particular northern Persia as within the USSR's
sphere of influence and under its control.
But we knew that yesterday, Eric, after I posted about it
(searching for something relevant to your contention that
>>the CIA installed the Shah of
> > Iran..... ( what few realize is that) prior to that, the
Soviets
> > controlled Iran
could it be that the reason few realise this is that it isn't
true?
Judy Evans, Cardiff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Yost" <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:27 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Aren't you delighted you no longer have
a Hitler problem?
> >> Evidence that the USSR controlled Iran.
>
> Besides their covert influence on the country, the Soviets
> had a treaty, from the early 1920s I believe, that allowed
> them to invade Iran ("come to the assistance," or "resolve
> border problems") any time they unilaterally decided to do
> so. This is the treaty invoked to justify the Soviet-Brit
> invasion in WW2.
>
> If the terms of that treaty aren't evidence of some measure
> of control to you, consider this. During the war, Stalin
> would NEVER venture outside areas of Soviet Control.
>
> The leaders met in
>
> Iran
> Yalta (in the Crimea)
>
> Stalin REFUSED to go to Casablanca and only met at Potsdam
> after the hostilities had ended.
>
> So you can see, Stalin must have felt that Iran was a secure
> area, one he controlled, or he wouldn't have traveled there.
>
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