I originally sent this on Jan. 25th. Then I sent it on Jan. 26th. But it doesn't get on the list. This is my third try. It does show up in my Sent List but not on Incoming mail, so I gave it a different subject heading. Judy:Oh sorry, I meant, so now you've read Sayeed Warsi's speech you've modified your views. I don't need to modify my views as I have never condemned bigotry. Or hatred against any person. What I have said is that I disapprove of some religious practices. And the intrusion of religion into government. I liked the Baroness's speech very much. I regret that you didn't catch some of her comments re the meaning of "phobia." She says it's irrational fear. I stated why I fear religions, Christianity also, because of what they do, not because of what I imagine. I was caught by surprise re Disraeli, who, even though prime minister, was depicted as a bag man. And right here is a big part of my point. Did any Jews then threaten the life of any editor who allowed this? Did Jews assemble as a mob at a newspaper office? Did they blow up a bus? See the difference? I know only a few Muslims did this. Most of the rest are silent because they are afraid too. Re her comments of the Catholic president in the TV show "West Wing" I thought was perfect. It shows the difference between what we allow in Western countries regardless of what it says in the Bible, it is not the same in many Arab countries re what it says in the Koran. So she makes one of my points herself. If it's OK for Toynbee and Liddle to admit to Islamophobia I guess they are saying they are afraid of Islam but don't know why. I have stated why I am afraid. So it's not a phobia. I wonder how the British services responsible for the safety of their citizens get information about terrorists if people want to attack Muslims in Britain? The speech B. Warsi gave was very good. I like her thoughtfulness. But she is incapable of seeing what others see in Islam. But the biggest problem is that she is fighting a losing battle when a Muslim stands up and says something like London belongs to everyone or to Muslims because God says so. I am one of those who feels sorry when I see a Muslim a woman in a local park in a black chador, with her whole body covered except her face, pushing a little kid on a swing when the temperature is 95 degrees and the humidity is 89 %. Also, as a bike rider, one of the joys of life is feeling the wind blow through one's hair. I wish she could experience it too. So it's not disdain or disapproval as much as sympathy. As concerning religion's destructive power in politics, did you notice the silence concerning the mosque in New York.? No more political use for Christians at the moment for attacking the mosque or the intention of the Muslims. When there is political use, the attacks will resurface. In the meanwhile, religion is playing an increasing role in my government which I consider destructive. If you have time, watch what the US House of Representatives is introducing for passage. Also you might know that "C Street", a boarding house for conservative Congressmen, is so powerful that it has gotten attention from people as powerful as Hilary Clinton. And I don't mean negative attention. They have to be catered to. I could go and and on re the speech but I am not going to live forever, so I will leave it at that. Veronica Caley Milford, MI ----- Original Message -----