[lit-ideas] Re: Another Bush failure?
- From: "Mike Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:08:29 -0500
PS:
Except that Mike's comment is a completely gratuitous insult for insult
sake (which, if Mike needs to do it, I hope he understands why he needs to
do it) I do regret having hurt the trust level of the list. However,
people don't see WHY I did it, which has been explained and they don't
care
that I have tried as best I could to rectify it.
So... why on EARTH, nine months later, are you still posting as Andy
Amago? Are you playing some weird fantasy game?
There are 2 definitions for 'gratuitous': (1) "freely bestowed," from L.
gratuitus "free, spontaneous, voluntary," from gratia "favor." -- first
recorded 1656; (2) "uncalled for, done without good reason" -- first
recorded 1691. I admit that my insult -- if, indeed, it was an insult --
was gratuitous as it was freely bestowed. However, I don't believe it was
an insult. I wrote it as a humorous comment -- therefore, it was done WITH
good reason, ergo, it was not gratuitous by the second definition. The
insult in all this, if indeed there is one, is in Irene's continued use of a
pseudonym long past any purported reason for it. Which leads me to believe
that there are deep, unexamined psychological needs in Irene that are in
urgent need of examination. I shudder at the thought of examining them
myself; however, seeing as how Andy has no problem delving into everyone
else's psyche, so shall I -- but with great caution. Disclaimer: I am not a
real psychologist, but I play one on this List from time to time. And like
all true players, I play, "not to win but to have fun" as Alexander the
Great once put it. And was Alexander not the pupil of Aristotle? Yes, he
was. Does that not then imbue play with great gravitas? Shouldn't
Alexander then, as Aristotle's student, have known what was going on inside
him, realized what his inner child was crying out for? Being Aristotle
tutored, shouldn't Alexander the Great have been able to reconcile the
alternating dotage and derision of his brutal and unpredictable father
Phillip II? And shouldn't he have been able to integrate the unbridled
ambitions and ruthless intrigues of his scheming mother Olympias into a
healthy, loving, nurturing personality? Did he really need to kill his
dearest friend, his soul mate, his next-to-self Cleitos in a drunken rage?
Hmmm. Maybe so. It's hard to get at these answers. Mostly because we
don't know the really pertinent questions. I know some among us think they
do, and they thence have all the answers. But I'm not one of then. For
instance, I don't know what question to put to Irene that will help us
understand Andy. I wonder at Andy's verbal aggressiveness, his compulsion
to weigh in on almost every issue, his tendency to pontificate, his off-hand
dismissiveness of all who disagree with him as psychological cripples. I
guess Irene just enjoys being a man. Nothing wrong with that. I do too.
And I think I'd enjoy being a woman. Except for the menstruation and the
hot flashes. Forget that. And having to deal with tedious lecherous men --
Christ, I'd rather kill myself.-- but, of course, there'd be some men I'd
want to lust after me -- don't get me wrong. Given my givens, I think I
might actually feel more plugged into existence as a woman. But what do I
know? I know that I don't know what questions to put to myself as to why I
do anything. Why do I kill my dearest soul mate (myself) in drunken rages?
Who knows, who cares? In the end, we do what we do. But I do think there's
one difference between Andy and myself and that is that I do know that I
don't know.
Mike Geary
I, too, welcome Jack Spratt. Hope you enjoy chewing the fat. (ha ha)
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Except that Mike's comment is a completely gratuitous insult for insult
sake (which, if Mike needs to do it, I hope he understands why he needs to
do it) I do regret having hurt the trust level of the list. However,
people don't see WHY I did it, which has been explained and they don't care
that I have tried as best I could to rectify it.
So... why on EARTH, nine months later, are you still posting as Andy Amago? Are you playing some weird fantasy game?
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