[lit-ideas] Re: Anonymity and revelation...

  • From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:16:40 -0500

> [Original Message]
> From: Robert Paul <robert.paul@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 1/30/2006 9:43:32 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Anonymity and revelation...
>
> >>To which, as you've noted, I replied that I'd never heard that in my 
> >>life, that is, I've never heard anyone say 'Give it to he.' '
>
> > That's what was unclear.  You really have to get out more.  That's all
but
> > standard usage in business.  
>
> Nonsense, Irene. Don't patronize me about 'getting out more.' I didn't 
> say I'd never heard it in my professional life. I said I'd never heard 
> it in my life. Anywhere. Ever. Let's have one bona fide use of this 
> expression from somebody 'in business.' (I'd like to stipulate that the 
> person 'in business' is a native speaker of English, and not some 
> hapless translator in Bangkok.)


All right.  Next time I come across something relevant, I'll redact it and
send you an example. Maybe I'll compile a few. The fact that you never,
ever in your life heard people talk that way is astonishing.  We obviously
live in different worlds, yours on a much higher level than mine.



>
> > That's part of my earlier lament that so
> > called professionals are glorified plumbers or electricians. All they
know
> > is their craft.  Maybe in the ol Ivory Tower they don't talk that way,
but
> > in real life that's how it's done.  
>
> Who's the so-called professional here? Moi? What _is_ a so-called 
> professional, by the way, that they should feel diminished by comparing 
> them to plumbers and electricians? Are plumbers and electricians 
> notoriously ungrammatical? Re 'Ivory Tower': are you implying that
> I don't know how ordinary people speak? You ought to get out more.
>


They're not diminished, they equated.  And,  I wasn't talking about
academics. I was talking about "professionals".  My dentist, for example,
never heard of Kurt Vonnegut.  Needless to say, I dropped it.  By and
large, most people are ungrammatical, except of course the people in your
world, who all speak pristine English.






> Robert Paul
> Reed College
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