So you've deftly avoided the issue once again Lawrence. There we were discussing the ideology vs experience/perception issue, and then suddenly we're argiung about the attributes of one journo. Deft Lawrence. Really deft. So, just to take matters back a touch, I'll repeat the quote from your previous post. "Zawahiri's text is based upon Qutb, and it is going to help prepare minds to react and take offense in accordance with what Qutb and people like Zawahiri have prepared them for?" React to what Lawrence? Take offense to what? If it's all ideology, if the west is so evil, what is there to react against. Don't be shy Lawrence. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Helm To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 2:14 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Amis Antithesis Were you laughing? I guess my own laughter drowned it out. So that's your answer: He doesn't live in a vacuum and knows by osmosis what everyone else knows. And therefore knows this thing that he apparently doesn't know, namely that the Army Corps of Engineers continues to build and be appreciated by the local Iraqis -- but not it would seem by your osmotic journalist. Lawrence ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Simon Ward Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:14 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Amis Antithesis Don't like being laughed at Lawrence? Anderson is an established journo writing for the New Yorker. These guys don't live in a vacuum. They have contacts, they write books, they get paid for it. Sure this one might not fit in with your politics, but give him some credit. At least he's been there. Have you? Simon