[lit-ideas] Re: Ahmadi-Nejad's Letter to Bush
- From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 13:35:56 -0400
Well, Annie Mylroie gave us conspiracy theories on which to invade Iraq, now
Ralph Peters is giving us all kinds of reasons to start yet another, even more
horrible war, urging us to open a can of worms that we will never close. Not
only do you not trouble yourself to question what he's saying, you swallow the
whole thing hook, line and sinker and regurgitate it as proof positive that we
need madness and mayhem.
And I don't abhor logical arguments. I abhor using them to start a nuclear
war. I also asked you to apply logic to what happened in Iraq, and you
declined.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Helm
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 5/11/2006 1:22:28 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Ahmadi-Nejad's Letter to Bush
I don?t think you have a very accurate idea of what?s at stake. Since you
abhor logic arguments, here are some impassioned words that may appeal to your
understanding:
?For many years to come the most consistent threat to the West will arise from
Islamic extremists. We will not eliminate this millenarian movement in our
lifetimes, but can only tamp it down to a bearable level. The conditions the
Middle East has created for itself will continue to generate terrorists. We
can only hope that the impulse to embrace the new Islamic death cult doesn?t
spread exponentially.
?Of course, hope alone is insufficient. We also must act. It is nonsense to
claim that American displays of resolve only create more terrorists. The
terrorists are already in the pipeline. There is no alternative to killing
them unless we wish to establish vast prisons over the gates of which we write
?Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.?
?It may be correct that we cannot kill our way out of this problem, but we can
make the problem much more manageable by killing the right people. The terror
war against us is a knife fight to the bone. We shall nor relish the prospect,
but we must display an absolute determination to confront and defeat our
enemies wherever we find them. Especially in the face of mass murderers who
believe they?re on a ?mission from God,? our resolution cannot waver. As we
Americans continue to expand humanity?s frontiers we will have to fight
proponents of blood sacrifice as morally primitive as any examples we might
summon from history.
?In the age of digital wonders we are at war with demons.?
Pp 163-4 from New Glory by Ralph Peters
Lawrence
From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Andy Amago
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:08 AM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Ahmadi-Nejad's Letter to Bush
Lawrence, we've been around this block. It's hard to imagine that a country
with the firepower of the U.S. is worried that another country is going to add
its name to an already long list of countries that have the bomb. If that's
the case, what's the point of this stunningly huge military and nuclear
arsenal?
BTW, what does your logic tell you about how people would have responded to 3.5
million pounds of bombs dropped on them? Would logic tell us the results would
be merely 'progress' three years later? What's the logical next step, nuclear
bombs? What if that doesn't obey the laws of logic either? Think there's any
possibility of that happening?
What's that old saying, do unto others as you would want them to do unto you?
If Eric doesn't feel safe now, wait until we set an example for the world that
it's okay to use nuclear weapons.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Helm
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 5/11/2006 12:46:51 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Ahmadi-Nejad's Letter to Bush
I really thought (before I realized who I was reading) that you were going to
say something else, Irene, namely Lost in all of this is that these people are
facing the building of nuclear bombs in their country despite Iran having
signed the non-proliferation treaty. Read the brief excerpt from the Iran NPT
nuclear safeguards compliance report [IAEA]. It will describe the concern many
of us have:
http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/gazette/2006/05/iran-npt-nuclear-safeguards-compliance.php
Lawrence
-----Original Message-----
From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Andy Amago
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 9:21 AM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Ahmadi-Nejad's Letter to Bush
Lost in all of this is that these people are facing nuclear bombs being
dropped on their country if not their heads. Somebody remind me what a
peace loving religion Christianity is?
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