--- On Wed, 20/4/11, Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> wrote: > The asymmetry seems to be that while KK makes a lot of > sense: > > "I know she likes me; therefore I know I know she likes me" This does not make a great deal of sense, hence an expression like "I know I know she likes me" is a rarity outside of certain kinds of philosophical discourse where it might be used to exemplify Hintikka's point. Either the "I know(1) I know(2)" is meant so that "know" (1) and (2) are the self-same mental state, in which case the expression is redundant (and makes as little sense as 'Please close the door which is the door" etc) or (1) is a further act of knowing in relation to (2), in which case the inference is questionable - for surely I can believe/know p without being further of any belief or knowledge as to whether 'I believe I believe'/'know I know' p. Etc. I believe/know I said as much yesterday but remain open-minded as to whether that means I believe that I believe that I believe that I believe that I believe I said as much as yesterday. D Ldn ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html