Hi Julie, A repl(a)y from 2003...
Ursula Ignoring St. Augustine to fish for this...and adding her sympathy
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 14:36:45 -0400 From: N Miller <nmiller@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:nmiller@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> Subject: Re: bupkis? bupkes? please help!!!!
Alison: Here are the facts.
Bobke is a Slavic borrowing (e.g. Polish bobek) and means dung. It is so defined and so spelled by Harkavy and recently by Niborski in his marvelous Yiddish-French dictionary. Both lexicographers also give bobkes! (not found in my Polish-English dictionary) defined as 'nonsense' by Harkavy and 'balivernes' by Niborski.
But while Yiddish borrows many words from the Slavic (paskudnyak, khaligan, bolshevik) it invariably (I think) forms the plural to conform with Germanic usage (paskudnyakes, etc.). Yiddish would never have bobki. And of course only those with inadequate knowledge of the language would form a plural with '-is'.
Yiddish, like Russian, is spelled phonetically. All letters are always pronounced the same. The o in bobke always rhymes with the o in love.
I hope this doesn't come too late.
Norman Miller
JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx wrote:
How you guys pull stuff like this off the cuff is beyond me. I love it -- made me smile (chuckling is out of the question for a bit). (But would you mind interpreting the word "bobkes"? Julie Krueger
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Half way back to normal comes the stare, and I sit, there is no other stare quite like it. My current fear of carpets is neither up nor down, for want of information, I sometimes wear a frown. I know were I in combat, I'd merely shrug and sigh, but here, re. the freeway, for an eye one thinks an eye. Cousin Job says I should know how much to ask for bumps, but actually we endure, split our bobkes from our lumps.
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