Thanks Dave. Now that 64-bit Leveller is getting done, I am hoping to make Leveller more portable. On the Mac it's a little challenging because C++ is not the preferred language. For Windows, they have Windows 8 coming out with its Metro interface. This is somewhat like the iPad/iMac situation because Windows 8 will have Metro and the legacy Windows7 UI - one system is good for media consumption, the other is better for content creation. Leveller is more in the latter camp, but I don't know what kind of citizen MFC will be in Windows 8. For iPad/iPhone/Metro, the Leveller Viewer could work, especially over the Net to a server housing pre-rendered tiles, like having a local-area version of Google Earth. Ray From: leveller-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:leveller-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Fierstein Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:11 AM To: leveller@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [leveller] Re: Farewell Steve Well said, Ray. And I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with OS X and iOS. Leveller on OS X? Leveller is still the best software I've found for creating/editing heightfields. David Fierstein On Oct 5, 2011, at 8:01 PM, Ray Gardener wrote: As many places are reporting, Steve Jobs, chairman of the board of Apple and former CEO, passed away today at the age of 56. I just wanted to say, for what it's worth, he was someone I admired. He was there doing great things from the beginning of my IT career, and was doing them right up to the very end of his all-too-short life. I always envied his ability to pursue quality at a level I wish I could. Too often I find it a struggle; he made it look easy. Occasionally, people are impressed by something I've done and I tell them, it shows what is possible if you stick at things. But Steve Jobs did that much better, he really showed what is possible. While most everyone else was incrementally trying to improve the status quo, he went and reinvented it. He didn't wait for the future, he created it. We are all so much further ahead because of this extraordinary individual. Before I was a programmer, I was a typesetter using Macs and Illustrator/PageMaker to make a living. Even that far back, Apple saved me the headache of having to use the PC, which was nowhere near that ease of use at the time for that type of work. Today I carry around an iPhone 4 which has vastly more computing power and display quality than the first machines I learned on in school. Sometimes I have to pause and reflect on just how far we've come in only 30 years. And a big part of that is due to him. As a developer with some time on the Mac, I didn't always like some of the technical particulars of the various APIs the Mac OS's used back in the late 90s. But Jobs refused to let Apple die, and he slowly but surely made things better. It was my pleasure to re-up as an Apple developer a few months ago, and I'm looking forward to learning to develop for OS X and iOS. It's not going to be the same without him. I don't even want to think about what people closer to him are going through; this is so terribly hard even at a distance. Thank you Mr. Jobs -- for everything -- and may you rest in peace. Ray Gardener Daylon Graphics Ltd.