[LRFlex] Re: Zeiss Ikon vs Leica, 40mm still missing....

Hi Douglas.

I have possibly done like you, reading other mailing lists.

Still hoping to get a 40mm/f1.4 in Leica R mount! But range finders are such a fashion these days!

And, why not, a 28mm/f3.5, SLIM, a 75mm/f3.5 SLIM too.

Travel lens, just they are!

From time to time, one may read about the SL/SL2, some guys who are considering buying one, looking for a simple reflex. But Leica shall not make the SL3, they don't have the back bone strong enough.
And the market is not ready yet.

I have been looking at the show for the Digital Module Leica R. Lovely but SO BIG. unless being a Roo with a large pocket, difficult to hide it!

Cheers.


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Xavier F. BILLE
Maisons-Alfort - France.





From: "Douglas M. Sharp" <DouglasMSharp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: MUGers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,Leica Users Group <lug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, LUC <luc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,rflist <rflist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [LRFlex] Zeiss Ikon vs Leica
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:07:17 +0200

What an incorrigible bunch we are!  I've just been reading through the
dozens of mails on half a dozen lists.

The camera isn't even on sale yet and it's already got back focus
problems, the lens apertures are not big enough, it's
a Cosina (what's wrong with that !), it shouldn't have AE, the lenses
aren't really Zeiss, it's too expensive, Hasselblad
will push the price up.

And a lot of people just don't like it because it's not a Leica ! Think
on people, Zeiss is still a bigger name worldwide than Leica
and a guarantee for quality - they're not likely to be putting out
something unworthy of their name and tradition.
Even complaining that it will be on sale in May 2005 - has everyone
forgotten how long it takes to get new Leica products
to the stage that they can be sold ?
The MTF lovers are already on the warpath too.
I personally prefer to see what comes out when I take a picture. My job
had enough graphs and spectra to last me a lifetime.

As to it being vapo(u)r ware - no comment ., If they are letting people
at it, I'll be leaving my grubby  fingerprints on it
tomorrow in Cologne, or at least  getting a couple of pics of it sitting
in its glass case.

If the lenses are cheaper than Leica and have the SAME quality then
hooray !!! .
If they are BETTER , and that may well be the case considering Zeiss
technology, then double hooray!! And a standing ovation.
If they are as good as the CV offerings we've had so far, and at a
similar price they deserve a round of applause too.

If the body has the right  feel to it then well done Zeiss.It looks
solid, it has style, I find it desirable.

This is the first all out frontal attack on Leica, let's see what THEY
make of it. No real Leicaphiles ever took
CV seriously, but IMO Zeiss/Cosina is a force to be reckoned with,  not
just a couple of hundred cameras for collectors, but
a true competitor..
CZ has got money and muscle enough to back Leica into a corner, let's
see if they can come out fighting, this may be just the push they need.

Douglas
More tomorrow after I've seen it.




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