Thanks Bill, After considering advice from the list I went ahead and purchased a second hand 80-200 on ebay from "SH photo GmbH im Hause Fotomax" which I believe received a load of R lenses from Leica once they had decided to discontinue the R system. I paid $1112 Australian dollars on best offer including postage (approx $940 US) Seems like a fair price given the market at the moment. It has a few marks on the barrel but optics, zoom, focus and aperture stops are all fine. Anyway the lens does not disappoint. I haven't had much chance to use the beast but I have posted a few samples on flickr all taken hand held using a modified Sigma SD14 most at f4.0, wide open. I have also a few rolls of film taken using an R7 which I will develop soon. I can't get Doug's sharpness but I doubt this has anything to do with the lens. For those interested ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/25126059@N02/sets/72157621805882335/ Advice requested. I need a wide, either the 35mm Summicron or the 28mm f2.8. I wonder if the difference is merely light and width or whether there is a character difference between the two lenses. This would influence my choice or should I just get both since life is too short. Thanks Walter On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 10:51 -0700, William B. Abbott III wrote: > Hi Walter, > > Since 1986 I have bought and traded many Leica lenses, both M and R, > all with some purpose in mind. The vast majority were used and I have > never had anything to complain about yet. > > If I had it to do over, I would never have traded a lens but just hung > on to it. Oh, well, what's done is done. > > Good luck, > > Bill > > > On Jul 23, 2009, at 7:58 PM, walter.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > People may remember I asked for advice on the elmar-vario-r 80-200mm > > f4.0 and > > whether to get that lens in favour of the 180mm f2.8 Thanks to those > > who responded. > > I recently acquired this lens (the vario)second hand from eu-shphoto > > but I have not > > yet had a good chance to try it out. Browsing the net I came across > > some comments > > that indicated that there is noticable variation in quality between > > these lenses. > > Has anyone heard of this or can substantiate or is it merely web > > chatter. > > > > Cheers > > ------ > > Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > > http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ > > Archives are at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > > ------ > Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ > Archives are at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ -- Walter Krämer walter.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx walter.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Bus: 03 9854 2468 Mob: 0414 884 965 ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/