At 08/02/2007, you wrote: >Hello David, > >Hmmm... This film vs. digital cost thing has always struck >me as a bogus argument. They really ARE two different >media, although I'll go along with your cost of processing. >$20- is about right for pro film, prints and pro high-res >400 dpi jpegs which print to 11"x17" no problem off an Agfa >processor/scanner. > >I shoot 50 - 100 rolls/ year, depending on spare time and travel. >Mainly I use M's and use an SL only for macro. I don't need to >shoot a lot of film as my hit rate is pretty high. Unsolicited picture >sales paid for all my film costs in 2006. > >BTW, the way I see it, one killer shot pays for a new lens. :-) >And how much does the travel cost? > >If you are a pro, shooting events or lingerie, you can write off >the digital gear in 3 - 5 years no problem. Are you a pro? Digital >is ideal for this stuff. > >What it can't easily do is this ><http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lambroving/Miscellany/MOG-2006/LUG242.jpg.html> > >or this. ><http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lambroving/Miscellany/Steamtown/LUG255.jpg.html> > >They really ARE two different media. Can we agree on that?! > >Regards, > >William We certainly can, William! I was not trying to push the old film vs digi argument. I was simply stating how the math works out for me, since I switched from film to digi. Film will, indeed, do things that digi can't. And vice versa. I have some negs, scanned at 4000dpi so that's 4000x6000 or 24 million pixels. They are spectacular! Until digi can match that in a 35mm sized sensor, it will not match film for fine details. OTOH, film at ISO 1600 and 3200 is bloody terrible. And I shoot wildlife, often in the shade, with an f6.8 Telyt and 2x converter. That's f`13.6 wide open! Even on a sunny day, ISO 400 film is "touch and go" for much of what I do. The noise in the DMR at such ISOs is better than the grain in any film I've ever used, at such speeds. It is for this reason that I switched to digital, and I'll likely never look back. Still, I live in hope that the mythical, magical R10 will appear with an 18 to 20 megapixel sensor (Full frame or APS - doesn't matter to me) and better auto white balance than the DMR. If they can build that in an R8 sized body (without winder or DMR attached) , I'm in! All that being said ... I have 12x18" digi prints on the wall, which most folks cannot tell from film. Different strokes... To answer your last question... no, I'm not a pro. I'm a retired stereo store owner. Cheers! --- David Young, Logan Lake, CANADA Wildlife Photographs: http://www.telyt.com/ Personal Web-pages: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/