[LRflex] Re: Simplicity

Mais non!!!!  Leica M3 (MIII).
But I sure wouldn't turn a Bimmer M3 down if handed the keys!

Regards,

Bob


On Dec 21, 2006, at 13:37, Philippe Amard wrote:

Hi Bob
M3: are you refering to a BMW? ;-)
Cheers
Phileicangenieux.


Bob Shaw wrote:

> Harry:
>
> For sure, it resonates.
>
> Wish I still had my '91 300E (with the SINGLE overhead cam, inline 6). 
> =20=
>
> A great car at any speed (especially the "less legal" speeds).
>
> Now I drive the IDS Mk II of automobiles; a 2004 Prius.  Three 
> onboard=20=
>
> computers constantly chatting each other up, big LCD screen etc.=20
> digital on/off button, etc.  But it's very, very Green and really 
> does=20=
>
> use precious little fuel.  So far one of the best cars I've ever owned.
>
> BUT:  All thing considered, the 300E was probably the best (not the=20
> fastest or the biggest, OK?) car Mercedes ever engineered.  Can't 
> begin=20=
>
> to imagine what a similarly-built car would cost, today.
>
> Same could be said for an M3 or even an R3MOT, don't you think?
>
>
> Bob in Seattle
>
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2006, at 11:41, rvbayexplorer@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> I read most all of the emails and love the photos; I=92m in awe of 
> Doug=20=
>
> Herr=92s wildlife pic=92s.
> .I almost feel like an eavesdropper
>
> but I=92m hesitant to add my thoughts since I consider myself such a=20
> photographic amateur that I=92m really not qualified to criticize or=20
> comment
>
> but in this case I do have something to add.
>
> I started out with a Nikon Photomic Ftn system (still have it with 
> some=20=
>
> great lenses including one of my all time favorites the 2.8/55 
> micro).=20=
>
> I also have an R3Mot with a 2/50, 2.8/90 and 2.8/135 although I=20
> understand that some pooh pooh the Minolta connection. I=92m partial 
> to=20=
>
> the Leica lenses
> the most common, the 2/50 Summicron I consider truly great
> I even like the 135 that=92s not supposed to be great! Unfortunately=20
> these film cameras give me unpredictable results. Some good shots ,=20
> some bad a few that I love. Typically shoot
> ..wait several days to a week for the processing then
> Damn!
> jiggled the camera or wrong exposure, someone blinked
>
> etc etc etc. then I got a Canon D60. What a difference! Shoot a 
> hundred=20=
>
> exposures, correct as you go with generally good results led me to 
> what=20=
>
> I now have, a 1Ds Mk II. What=92s fabulous about the EOS is that I get 
> =
> to=20
> not only use some excellent Canon L glass but I also get to use the=20
> Leica lenses
>
> and the Nikon lenses
> and great Zeiss lense
>  s
> etc.
>  I must say that I get what I think are great shots even if they are=20
> mostly of family and friends. That doesn=92t mean I don=92t still like 
> =
> to=20
> get out the old film cameras and look at them, handle them and even=20
> shoot a roll of film now and then (however lately it=92s mostly then).
>
> But I do think I also have a perspective on the film/digital 
> argument=20
> because I have a mint, 1984 Mercedes 300D Turbodiesel that I will=20
> likely never sell. I drive it almost every day and L-o-v-e it.=20
> Exceptionally high quality (nothing like the kachunk of a 300D door=20
> closing), talk about simplicity; no catalytic converter; manual seat=20
> adjustment,; manual side mirror adjustment, legendary reliability=20
> (Mercedes did the initial diesel engine design of this car in 1936),=20
> fuel efficient, bulletproof ; I even love the noisy diesel and the=20
> smell of the exhaust. A great car that I not only truly appreciate
> but kind of worship. However I also understand that ABS brakes,=20
> traction control, air bags, crash testing, four wheel drive, 
> computer=20
> controlled fuel systems, catalytic converters and pollution 
> controls,=20
> vast improvements in automatic transmission design, etc. in the 
> final=20
> analysis really make for a better automobile albeit a more complex 
> and=20=
>
> even finicky one.
>
> But I=92m keeping my Mercedes!
>
> Does this at all resonate?
>
> Harry
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Charlie Falke <chfalke@xxxxxxx>
>
>
>> telyt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The simplicity of the SL and SL2 also appeal to me (along with the=20
>>> beauty
>>> of the incomparable Leicaflex viewfinders) so they remain my
>>> carry-everywhere cameras=3D2E  What I like about my digital camera=20
>>> (R8/DMR i=3D
>>> n
>>> my case) is the image quality particularly compared with film at 
>>> high=20=
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>> ISO,=3D
>>>
>>> auto white balance, the extremely low cost of the dud photos, the=20
>>> instant
>>> feedback, and the quick transfer to the computer, which is how I=20
>>> print my
>>> photos whether film-origin or digital=3D2E
>>>
>>> What I dislike most about the Leicaflexes - actually the ONLY thing I
>>> dislike about the Leicaflexes - is high-ISO films=3D2E  What I =
>>>
>>>
> dislike=20
>
>
>>> most
>>> about digital cameras is the support hardware: chargers, 
>>> batteries,=20=
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>> backup=3D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Doug,
>>   I agree.  I would place the digital state of the art of digital
>> photography where electronic flash was when the available
>> units could either function well or work on the internal batteries,
>> but not at the same time.
>>   They will get there as the hardware improves.
>> Look at the first electronic flash.  You could have acceptable recycle
>> times, or run on the internal batteries, or enough light, pick any =
>>
>>
> two.
>
>
>>   I'm not a luddite, (I made my first digital audio recording in =
>>
>>
> 1987,
>
>
>> and haven't looked back), but I like machinery that isn't fussy
>> or trailing wall warts.
>>   Doug, which PX-625 solution did you end up with?
>> --=20
>> Charlie Falke                                         _____      /\
>>                                                 | __/\__/------/__)
>>                                                 |(____\/_________/
>> "One test result is worth                        |    |/        `o
>>  one thousand expert opinions" - Wernher Von Braun   0  N4003M
>> "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein
>>
>>
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