[LRflex] Re: OT perhaps - monitor selection

Hi Aram, 
Sounds like you have the tools you need to get the job done... at least for the 
monitor side of things. The biggest hurdle is implementing a calibration system 
using a physical color calibrator like a Spyder. Also the hurdle that is so 
easily not even known about or if someone knows of it, they don't understand 
why it is so important. 

Northlight Imaging is a British website I visit which might help you solve your 
print calibration problems and if not fix them, at least understand why it isnt 
working! The photographer behind it has a couple of onpoint articles on the 
matter posted which I found interesting. He also has a nice swath of reviews of 
most of the hardware and software out there for calibrating screens and prints 
and such. Might want to give it a look n see,

Peace
Richard in Michigan

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On Jan 11, 2012, at 11:00 PM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thanks Richard.  I have a Spyder 3 Express.  The colors look fine on the 
> screen, but just can't seem to get good prints even with custom profiles w/o 
> tweeking my Epson 1800 driver a bit.  Not suppose to need to do that, I 
> gather, if the profile is good for both the monitor and the printer/paper. 
> I had a spyder2 which worked fine on my old CRT monitor, but when I switched 
> to the Samsung, it was not up to the task, so I got the 3.  Maybe the 3 is 
> not up to the task, either.  Room light is subdued and not direct.
> 
> Aram
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Richard Ward
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 6:05 PM
> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: OT perhaps - monitor selection
> 
> Hi Aram,
> I vote for the Dell 2410. I have one and am quite impressed with it so far. 
> It has a plethora of inputs, a great build, nice ergonomics, and a dizzying 
> array of settings and options. Most importantly for myself: It has the 
> antiglare finish on the screen so it doesn't turn into a frickin frackin 
> mirror like glossy monitors do in the presence of ambient light. I'd say I 
> wanted the inventor of glossy monitors drawn and quartered, but the 
> punishment wouldn't be enough for the crime they committed against humanity.
> 
> Query about the calibration issues you noted experiencing?
> 
> 1) Are you calibrating your monitor with a sensor designed for the job? If 
> not, the human visual perception system is utterly unreliable for color 
> calibration work.
> 2) Is the illumination in your computer work area consistent and controlled? 
> If not, that variability is a notorious weak point for achieving manageable 
> colors.
> 
> I definitely am not a great resource or expert in the field of monitor and 
> printer caliration, but I am working on learning enough to make good choices 
> as I am setting up the calibration of my computers.
> 
> Hope you get a good monitor, Aram.
> 
> Richard in Michigan
> 
> p.s. as I was researching the dell pro level monitors, they certainly got 
> consistently high marks in the user reviews and pro reviews I read at the 
> time. Also: glossy monitors are more susceptible to  for having you 
> misperceive colors based on it reflecting back the color in the clothes the 
> user is wearing.
> 
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> On Jan 11, 2012, at 8:20 PM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> I am thinking of updating my system to an i7 and might as well update the 
>> monitor.  I have been using a Samsung 226BW for a few years.  I have 
>> always had a hard time calibrating it to work with my printer or Costco, 
>> even though I have had profiles made for my paper and use Costco profiles. 
>> I have been looking and reading and have narrowed my choice to a few IPS 
>> type monitors.  I was leaning towards the Dell U2410 but then read about 
>> the Asus PA246Q.  Both have the 16:10 format I want, and use a more 
>> advanced IPS screen than the HP variety.
>> So I was wondering if any of you have a good 24" monitor you use that I 
>> maybe should look at, or if you are familiar with the two I mentioned 
>> above. I will probably try a dual monitor setup, retaining my Samsung as 
>> the secondary monitor.  It might be nice to have Lightroom catalog upon 
>> one of them.
>> 
>> Aram
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>> 
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