[LRflex] Re: Motor drive problem

Jerry,
 
Thanks a lot you really been a big help!
 
Tim

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        From: leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Jerry Lehrer 
        Sent: Sat 25/02/2006 5:20 PM 
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        Subject: [LRflex] Re: Motor drive problem
        
        

        Tim,
        
        Get the manual.
        
        Jerry
        
        Tim Bedsted wrote:
        
        > Jerry,
        >
        > read the post no manual!
        >
        >
        > Tim
        >
        >         -----Original Message-----
        >         From: leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Jerry 
Lehrer
        >         Sent: Sat 25/02/2006 4:47 AM
        >         To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        >         Cc:
        >         Subject: [LRflex] Re: Motor drive problem
        >
        >
        >
        >         Tim
        >
        >         I would apply the first thing I learned in flight school; " 
If everything else
        >         fails, RTFM!!"
        >
        >         Jerry
        >
        >         Tim Bedsted wrote:
        >
        >         > Hello,
        >         >
        >         > I have an issue with my newly acquired motor-drive.
        >         >
        >         > When I insert a new film and closes the backdoor, it will 
keep clicking and winding film, but the film counter wil not increment past 00 
and so in the end the release button will stay limp. I didn't get the manual 
with my motor-drive, so am I doing something wrong here? Everything else works 
brilliantly.
        >         >
        >         > Regards,
        >         > Tim
        >         >
        >         >         -----Original Message-----
        >         >         From: leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of 
Andy Wagner
        >         >         Sent: Sat 25/02/2006 12:34 AM
        >         >         To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        >         >         Cc:
        >         >         Subject: [LRflex] Re: DMR question .
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >         Thanks for the suggestion Jerry I'll give it a try
        >         >         Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:  Andy,
        >         >
        >         >         I have seen digi output directed to a large LCD 
screen (not plasma), but shadow detail suffered.
        >         >
        >         >         You can do that yourself. Take your digi-card or 
DVD to your local Mega electronics store
        >         >         and have it displayed on an LCD or Plasma screen. 
Let us know what you think about it.
        >         >
        >         >         I think that computer monitors have a finer 
definition than TV Hi-Def screens. IMBW.
        >         >
        >         >         Jerry
        >         >
        >         >         Andy Wagner wrote:
        >         >
        >         >         > OK guys let me throw another monkey wrench into 
the discussion here. The computer and Tv are very quickly joining forces. What 
I'm curious is instead of projecting from your computer to digital projector, 
what would the results be if output were directed to a high def plasma screen 
TV?
        >         >         > And I also have my worries about digital storage 
of my pictures--anybody out there still using 5.5 floppies?
        >         >         > David Young wrote:
        >         >         > Jerry Lehrer wrote:
        >         >         >
        >         >         > >Bill,
        >         >         > >
        >         >         > >Wow! You spent over a kilobuck for slide 
processing, right? Can I assume
        >         >         > >that you do the same with slides as I do? 
Project them with a Leica projector?
        >         >         > >
        >         >         > >Now if you go digital, WTF would you do to equal 
that? When using digital,
        >         >         > >you would have to make prints, right? I have 
seen the best digital projectors,
        >         >         > >
        >         >         > >and their results would make me sick. There is 
nothing to equal a good 35mm
        >         >         > >slide, except a 6x6cm Hasselblad or Rolleiflex 
side.
        >         >         > >
        >         >         > >For prints, I am sure that digital will approach 
equality with color negative
        >         >         > >film.
        >         >         > >
        >         >         > >Jerry
        >         >         > >
        >         >         > >
        >         >         > G'Mornin' Jerry!
        >         >         >
        >         >         > You are right... nothing equals a good slide, and 
digital projectors
        >         >         > are, at this stage, lousy.
        >         >         >
        >         >         > However, digital shots, when displayed on a good 
monitor, have a
        >         >         > luminosity which is very close to a slide. After 
all, the light is
        >         >         > coming from behind the image, and shadow detail 
lost in prints is quite
        >         >         > visible on the screen. Of course, it's a rather 
small 'screen', as
        >         >         > compared to a projector's' screen, but then, how 
many folks look at
        >         >         > slides these days?
        >         >         >
        >         >         > I know that about 10 years ago, I moved to colour 
neg film, simply
        >         >         > because nobody, not even my ex, wanted to look at 
my slides. Bring out
        >         >         > the projector and they run! Yet, put an album in 
front of them, and
        >         >         > they'll happily browse through the photos - 
sometimes for hours!
        >         >         >
        >         >         > It's probably true, that digital might not equal 
a good slide... though
        >         >         > I believe that DM-R shots on a screen, can comes 
close. At print sizes
        >         >         > of 12"x18" or less, top line digital images can 
certainly equal the best
        >         >         > results from film when printed.
        >         >         >
        >         >         > As Tim Bedsted said:
        >         >         >
        >         >         > >To me the really tragic thing about digital is 
the digital P&S cameras. I have yet to see pictures comparable to what one can 
obtain with old P&S film based cameras, and lets face it the vast majority of 
human content/historic pictures are taken with such instruments.
        >         >         > >
        >         >         > >
        >         >         > This is sad, because most folks take photos to 
preserve the memories of
        >         >         > their kids and holidays. Not only is low priced 
digital not up to the
        >         >         > quality standards of P&S film based cameras, the 
images take more effort
        >         >         > to store. You need to write a CD-Rom and then 
re-copy it to fresh media
        >         >         > or new formats every 3 to 4 years. If you do, 
there is no reason that
        >         >         > digital images should not survive for a very long 
time. The sad truth,
        >         >         > however, is that people put their slides and 
negatives away and never
        >         >         > touch them for a decade or more. Then, they dig 
them out and have some
        >         >         > prints made. With black and white, that's fine if 
they're simply kept
        >         >         > dry. With colour negs/slides it *may* be fine, 
depending on the storage
        >         >         > methods and original film choice. But for 
digital, it's not so fine.
        >         >         > Those photos are simply not going to be there for 
them. :-( Very sad,
        >         >         > indeed.
        >         >         >
        >         >         > Just some random thoughts from a randomly 
organized brain.
        >         >         >
        >         >         > Cheers!
        >         >         >
        >         >         > --
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        >         >         > Logan Lake, BC
        >         >         > CANADA.
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