[LRflex] Re: Le Voyage Digital de Bille
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- Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:24:30 +0000
Bille:
I too own a Canon G5.
I like it. It's a keeper until it breaks, which it surely will. Just a matter
of time. So what?
It is fraught with limitations, but so is a Space Shuttle.
It was my first digital purchase, two years ago. I held out for a long time
until I saw something like a range finder design that was not totally plastic.
Sort of a digital M5 wannabe with flaws. But at least it was in a black metal
body.
Even at "only" 5 Mpixels, it has yielded some remarkable results, as long as I
stay between ISO 50 and 100, only shoot Large JPEG, forget about action shots
or indoor dark flash pix, etc. etc.
But properly used, it has been a very satisfying "utility camera" that now and
then amazes me.
It aint no Leica; for "serious stuff", its always the R8 or R9, or maybe my
remarkable little Contax T2.
But I would NEVER discourage anyone from buying a digicam; they are fun,
useful and great educational tools for film photographers to brush up their
Basic Photography skills. Guys like me.
In fact, I never order prints off my R8/9 neg film any more.
I have my stuff commercially processed and scanned to high resolution disk for
work in Photoshop Elements for Mac so I can digitally print at home then select
the shots that I want "wet" printed. Works for me and less costly than
printing every frame of every roll.
The CD becomes a sort of "Digital Proof Sheet", si vous voulez.
I shot a candid portrait on request last year with the G5; example attached
(ISO 100, hand held, indoor, available light). This image easily went to 8x10
and printed beautifully...). I rest my case.
Regards,
Robert en Seattle
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From: "Bille Xavier F." <hot_billexf@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Hello Bob,
>
> Indeed, it was a little provocative. Probably, looking at EXIF data, you
> found that it was actually a 2 MP image. It was even more provocative since
> te file was 2.7 M bytes.
>
> Bob I'm gald of your reaction, it is very interesting. There are a lot of
> unknown to me in this dugital world. And it's far more complex than a normal
> consumer like you and I may grab. No Pun inteded, I'm far more ignorant than
> you although my job is IT Engineer (in a very different field :))
>
> When David showed me his pix on the DMR screen, I realised there was a
> tremendous step forward compared to film. The possibilty to give the sensor
> a set of paameters to match all the different lighting condition, going from
> 100 ISO to 3200 ISO in a simple push button, going from nightscene to bright
> sunshine easily.
>
> And your Canon has all this as well. The little Powershot I have ordered
> while waiting for the R10 is a Canon, with the same essence as your Canon.
> Lesser quality results, probably. You are right to despise it, but to show
> pix to friends, it's enough.
>
> I'm indeed joining your view, "it will do until later" except I put more
> "love" to my R7 and the fuji Provia 100 ISO than in a Digital. But please do
> not not consider me as hopeless, wait a little....
>
> What does the difference is the geometry and absolute lack of distorsion
> from the Leica R lenses. Of course, it takes days to scan a slide but in
> fact I can't stand those barrel/convex distorsion.
>
> When I take a pix with the Elmarit 24 (although sometimes despised), the pix
> looks OK (provided I have not made mistakes). Same applies to the Sa 21.
> When I take a pix with the Canon G5, for a friend in India, Mamma Mia....
>
> So, I follow your feeling. I am waiting for a R10 with a 1.3 factor. It may
> not even come. But that"s what I like. And if the M8 is a possible answer,
> I'll keep my clumsy settings.
>
> Thanks again Bob for your strong point exposed with an ultimate diplomacy.
> It is very delicate and constructive. In fact, I adhere to all your
> conclusions. Keep on.
> ---------------------------------
> Xavier F. BILLE
> Maisons-Alfort - France.
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: bob palmieri <rpalmier@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [LRflex] Re: Non Leica, Digital Wanderings, The R10 tha I dream
> >of.
> >Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:18:14 -0500
> >
> >On Sep 25, 2006, at 3:21 PM, Bille Xavier F. wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Here is another one:
> >
> > > http://xavierf.b.free.fr/Temp/Buffet.jpg
> > >
> > > Surprising, eh?
> > >
> > > ---> Given the tremendous possibilities of this little Point and
> > > shoot,
> > > given to see what a simple old digital camera can do,
> >
> >Xavier -
> >
> >Thanks for putting forth this provocative and courageous position.
> >Here's what I think you like about the camera: it's small, easy to
> >snap with and inexpensive.
> >
> >What I think you like about the pictures is that they seem sharp (and
> >reasonably well illuminated and exposed.) I feel that you're very
> >much on the mark with using computer monitor display as one of the
> >main criteria in making your point, because the sharpness impression
> >(in the tableshot), I believe, is partially a result of 1:1 pixel
> >mapping. In other display forms this machine might not bite the eye
> >the same way.
> >
> >But your pictures also exemplify some of the things I can't tolerate
> >about these little marvels, especially all the distortion in the
> >tableshot, and the fact that the thing probably snapped the picture
> >later than you intended in the shot with the dancer's arm on the
> >right side of the photo.
> >
> >And in fact, it is the "everything in focus" small-sensor thing which
> >also drives me nuts sometimes when I'm trying to get the image to
> >look a lot less busy.
> >
> >I gotta tellya that as a guy who just LUVS small, light, and
> >inexpensive gear, I bought a sorta high-end small (not quite pocket-
> >size) digisnapper a couple of years ago and HATED it.
> >
> >So, I've taken the opposite approach to your small-supplement-to-the-
> >serious-snapper-solution and just taken to hauling around my 20D as a
> >one-box compromise instead. It's not nearly as small as a digicam
> >and won't produce the big-time results that the DMR will under some
> >circumstances but it's the way for me at the moment.
> >
> >Bob Palmieri
> >
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