[LRflex] Re: L1-Vario- Couple of shots

Hi Eric,

Thanks for your cat picture to go along with Phillipe's lovely  
Sphinx. I remember those cats fondly from my days in Japan many years  
ago.

You wrote "Notice how the absence of auto-white balance in using film  
has allowed the play of artificial and sun light to add mood to the  
scene... leading into the film vs digital thing."

I've complained in this forum about the lack of consistency exhibited  
in a series of DMR raw images I made of a path in a forest, images of  
shade and sunlight taken from both shade and sunlight, using both the  
Auto WB setting and again with a single WB setting.

Not like "film," and there is no reason it should be, because the  
physics are much different. The raw output of the  digital sensor is  
different than the effects of the same set of photons on a film  
emulsion. The twain shall never meet. I can accommodate almost any  
output in some way as long as it is consistent.

I am told that improved image firmware will ameliorate if not  
eradicate this anomaly and I hope so. I have no experience with Nikon  
or Canon Auto WB with raw images but I am curious about how they've  
handled consistency, knowing they face the same physics.

I can always use tiff or jpeg mode, with their consistent "Leica- 
chrome" images, but I'd like the advantages which raw digital  
negatives provide. Adobe CS2 offers an Auto WB option for DNG files  
that almost accomplishes my consistency need but I need to do some  
more experimenting.

Yes, I want my cake and I want to eat it too!

I am now trying a demo of Alien Skin Software's "Exposure"  
application, a US$ 199 plug-in for Adobe CS (or later), which  
directly addresses consistency. It is a post-processing application  
that enables the image output of a DNG file to mimic a wide variety  
of Kodachrome and Fuji films plus a few GAF and Agfa films, using a  
split screen to enable visual comparison (Hurray!) of the original  
and the modified image. Other effects such as sharpening, grain,  
focus, etc. are included. For a look, go to:

http://alienskin.com/exposure/index.html

I'll share my conclusions when I can.

All my best,

Bill




On Nov 28, 2006, at 8:17 AM, LEICAFLEX wrote:

> Bonjour Philippe - V. nice B&W of Sphinx looking at your Lumix in the
> eye.  Your cat photos are full of character - "PhelineAngenieux"
> character....!
> In jest, I respond with a Hassy X-Pan shot of a Narita (Japan) cat
> that didn't want to lift its paw for me a few weeks ago, unlike its
> statuesque counterparts ;-) !   This was shot in non-panoramic, "Leica
> M" mode w/Fujicolor 200.
>
> http://www.fujirangefinder.com/document.php?id=3769
>
> Notice how the absence of auto-white balance in using film has allowed
> the play of artificial and sun light to add mood to the scene.....I
> kinda prefer it.  Here I go once again leading into the film vs
> digital thing.....
>
> Regards to all,
> Eric Chan
>
> ~ Eric
>
>
>
>
>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:53:23 +0100
>> From: Philippe Amard <phamard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [LRflex] L1-Vario- Couple of shots
>>
>> Hi listers,
>> I've just posted some weekend photos that might be of some  
>> interest for
>> those who don't know the new Vario-Elmarit, and for those - I know  
>> there
>> are - who like cats.
>> To be found here <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Lumix/>
>>
>> A warning: slow connection users might hate me if they double  
>> click on
>> the enlarge / full size feature of the origianl night shot - it IS  
>> heavy.
>>
>>
>> Comments welcome as usual.
>> More in the week
>> Yours
>> Phileicangemix
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