[LRflex] Re: Irescolor
- From: Steve Barbour <kididdoc@xxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:27:55 -0700
On Oct 27, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Douglas Sharp wrote:
Linda,
I hope you don't mind me saying so, but I think you ought to leave
the "special effects" out of your work.
In my opinion they don't do a thing to make good shots either
"better" or particularly "different".
Quite a few of your recent posts, including the portraits of Ires,
have been very good until you started playing around with them.
If you are so unsure of what your pictures are supposed to be
showing, then it's not a matter of trying to alter them until
someone says "Now that's nice", you should be showing what you think
is right.
Suggestions for other ways of shooting, presenting or processing
them certainly have come and will continue coming from the members
on the list, positive and negative criticism too, most of which is
excellent advice for people who have "Been there and done it".
Often enough Ted and others have told me the best place for some of
my shots is in the round wire bin under my desk - and, on taking a
closer look, I had to admit they were right and it certainly
sharpened my eye for separating out shots that were simply a waste
of disk space - and saved me a lot of wasted processing time and
effort.
Showing alternatives the way you have done so often recently seems
to me to be a sign of insecurity about what you are in fact doing.
your software prevents us from being able to download/manipulate them,
in simple ways...
I find it can be frustrating, as several times I have wanted to try
out some effects of cropping or other alterations...
oh, back to the central point... it's often easier to take candid
photos...
as these are often posed, the question becomes why are they posed in
this particular way, ie to what special end or purpose ?
trying to help, but we come back to the core issue (and Chris is right
on), do you know, or do you ask the subject...what are they to be used
for ?
Steve
I very much like your portraits (and a lot of your other subjects)
just as they are on your website. You are a good photographer, but I
can't help thinking that you yourself are not quite so sure about it.
Sorry to be so blunt about it - please keep on posting the ones that
really caught your eye in the first place, but without trying all
the toys in Photoshop or Lightroom.
Best regards
Douglas
linda.vermeiren@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Dear Chris,
Do these catch the soul better?
http://fotos.designing.be/Iresagedcolor/
Is it about laughing...?
Yours sincerely
Linda
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Chris L <mailto:speleo_karst@xxxxxxxxx>
*To:* leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2008 10:00 PM
*Subject:* [LRflex] Re: Irescolor
Hello Linda,
I am new to this list and don't know the accepted conventions and
behaviour here:
I hope that if I criticise your pictures, it won’t be taken amiss
or, worse, that I’ll not be considered a pariah! But you are
asking for feedback…
The pictures of the young woman: I find them technically very well
done, well lit and so on....
But what is the purpose of those pictures? They generally don't
catch the character or the soul of the subject. If they are meant
to be glamorous, in several she has expressions which don't show
her at her best.
My main observation/criticism is, what are you trying to say with
these photos?
Best wishes,
Chris
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Linda,I hope you don't mind me saying so, but I think you ought to leave the "special effects" out of your work.
In my opinion they don't do a thing to make good shots either "better" or particularly "different".
Quite a few of your recent posts, including the portraits of Ires, have been very good until you started playing around with them.
If you are so unsure of what your pictures are supposed to be showing, then it's not a matter of trying to alter them until someone says "Now that's nice", you should be showing what you think is right.
Suggestions for other ways of shooting, presenting or processing them certainly have come and will continue coming from the members on the list, positive and negative criticism too, most of which is excellent advice for people who have "Been there and done it".
Often enough Ted and others have told me the best place for some of my shots is in the round wire bin under my desk - and, on taking a closer look, I had to admit they were right and it certainly sharpened my eye for separating out shots that were simply a waste of disk space - and saved me a lot of wasted processing time and effort.
Showing alternatives the way you have done so often recently seems to me to be a sign of insecurity about what you are in fact doing.
I very much like your portraits (and a lot of your other subjects) just as they are on your website. You are a good photographer, but I can't help thinking that you yourself are not quite so sure about it.
Sorry to be so blunt about it - please keep on posting the ones that really caught your eye in the first place, but without trying all the toys in Photoshop or Lightroom.
Best regards Douglas linda.vermeiren@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Dear Chris, Do these catch the soul better? http://fotos.designing.be/Iresagedcolor/ Is it about laughing...? Yours sincerely Linda ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Chris L <mailto:speleo_karst@xxxxxxxxx> *To:* leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2008 10:00 PM *Subject:* [LRflex] Re: Irescolor Hello Linda, I am new to this list and don't know the accepted conventions and behaviour here: I hope that if I criticise your pictures, it won’t be taken amiss or, worse, that I’ll not be considered a pariah! But you are asking for feedback… The pictures of the young woman: I find them technically very well done, well lit and so on.... But what is the purpose of those pictures? They generally don't catch the character or the soul of the subject. If they are meant to be glamorous, in several she has expressions which don't show her at her best. My main observation/criticism is, what are you trying to say with these photos? Best wishes, Chris
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