Philippe, Thanks for asking. My R9/DMR combo, aka "R10-prototype," came at standard US prices: sky high. The past is always prelude to the future! As ever, Bill On Feb 8, 2007, at 1:13 PM, Philippe Amard wrote: Same question - And I'd also be curious to know if any price-tag was left on the prototype too.. Phileicangemix Dr. Elliot Puritz wrote: > Do I understand Bill that an R10 prototype is already in the > testing stages? > > Elliot > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Abbott" <wbabbott3@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 12:58 PM > Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMPORTANT: Re: DMR Support, all together now. > please > read > > > > >> Dear Mehrdad, >> >> Thanks. When a door closes behind you, another door opens in front of >> you. >> >> I believe I have just been inducted into the Ancient and Honorable >> Society of Leica R10 Prototype Testers, with all the rights, duties, >> and privileges pertaining thereto. >> >> As ever, >> >> Bill >> >> >> On Feb 8, 2007, at 9:10 AM, mehrdad wrote: >> >> ok here is a link to rob galbraith's site >> >> http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-8736-8825 >> >> looks like DMR is done.i still want the 1.3 >> >> On 2/4/07, drpuritz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <drpuritz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >>> As always, thanks for the detailed and informative reply David. >>> >>> Elliot >>> >>> >>>> From: David Young <telyt@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> Date: 2007/02/04 Sun PM 12:41:06 EST >>>> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMPORTANT: Re: DMR Support, all together now. >>>> please read >>>> >>>> Elliot wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I'd be interested to hear from all of the very accomplished and >>>>> pleased DMR users. >>>>> Now I wonder about the R10. >>>>> >>>>> As an aside, I am visiting family in Boston and I stopped in at >>>>> Newtonville Camera, one of my favorite >>>>> "old time" photo stores. Interesting to know that they are >>>>> sold out >>>>> of M8 cameras, with no more >>>>> expected until April. Also, no DMR modules in stock, or on the >>>>> horizon. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Hi Elliot! >>>> >>>> As I mentioned to Mehrdad, the DMR is a fine picture making >>>> machine, >>>> even with it's existing firmware. Just yesterday, while >>>> photographing the Polarthon (3km speed skate, 4 km run, 5km X- >>>> country >>>> ski) a photojournalism student, at nearby Three Rivers University, >>>> looked at the back panel of my DMR and exclaimed "Wow! I wish I >>>> could >>>> get colours like that with my Nikon ! " >>>> >>>> And, as mentioned in my earlier post, the DMRs remain available. >>>> However, few dealers are keen to stock it, as sales are slow. >>>> Still, >>>> they can order them. (There have been stories about dealers who >>>> did >>>> not support Leica with the DMR finding themselves "low on the totem >>>> pole", for M8 deliveries. While this is a common practice in >>>> business, I have no way of knowing if it is true.) >>>> >>>> You need not wonder about the R10. Leica's intention is to build >>>> both hardware and firmware for the R10 so that they avoid >>>> exactly the >>>> problems they are apparently having with Imacon. No company can >>>> afford to be "held hostage" to another, as Leica are to Imacon, >>>> for the DMR. >>>> >>>> As previously mentioned, Leica are building up their "in house" >>>> expertise, for firmware, and now write their own code for their >>>> PanaLeicas. However, at this point, they do not have the expertise >>>> to write firmware for the M8 or DMR. They plan on having this in >>>> place for the R10. >>>> >>>> As an aside, rumours (and only rumours) have it that this is why >>>> the >>>> Sinar purchase fell through. Leica thought they were getting >>>> Jenoptik's software group as part of the Sinar deal. Jenoptik >>>> thought otherwise. Had Leica got what they wanted, I'm pretty sure >>>> Leica would have offered lenses for Sinars - especially the Sinar-M >>>> and Sinar Hy6 (http://tinyurl.com/yp6pvo). Purchasing Jenoptik's >>>> software group (who wrote the M8's firmware) would have quickly put >>>> them firmly in the digital game. Alas; that, it seems, was not to >>>> be. >>>> >>>> As for the M8 ... well, despite it's problems (banding - cured by a >>>> recall; IR sensitivity - cured by filters; and noise - more >>>> noise at >>>> high ISO's than the DMR, it seems) it's initial, sold-out shipment >>>> totaled more units than I understand they've sold DMRs to date! >>>> The >>>> M8 will, it seems, save Leica. However, to be "a player" in the >>>> camera business, they must have a dSLR which works - and works >>>> very, >>>> very well. The R10 is intended to be that camera. Short of the >>>> financial collapse of Leica (now not too likely, with ACM's >>>> ownership >>>> and the success of the M8), I think the future of the R10 is >>>> assured. >>>> >>>> In ACM, they have an owner with the deep pockets required to >>>> make it >>>> happen. In Steven Lee, they have a CEO capable of making it happen. >>>> >>>> Will it happen? Only time will tell. But, I hope so. >>>> >>>> Cheers! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> David Young, >>>> Logan Lake, CANADA >>>> >>>> Wildlife Photographs: http://www.telyt.com/ >>>> Personal Web-pages: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------ >>>> Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: >>>> http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm >>>> Archives are at: >>>> //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ------ >>> Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: >>> http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm >>> Archives are at: >>> //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> ------------------------------------- >> regards, mehrdad >> ------ >> Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: >> http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm >> Archives are at: >> //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ >> >> ------ >> Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: >> http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm >> Archives are at: >> //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ >> >> > > ------ > Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm > Archives are at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > > > ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/