[LRflex] Re: IMPORTANT: Re: DMR Support, all together now. please read
- From: Philippe Amard <phamard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:13:56 +0100
Same question -
And I'd also be curious to know if any price-tag was left on the
prototype too..
Phileicangemix
Dr. Elliot Puritz wrote:
>Do I understand Bill that an R10 prototype is already in the testing stages?
>
>Elliot
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>>Dear Mehrdad,
>>
>>Thanks. When a door closes behind you, another door opens in front of
>>you.
>>
>>I believe I have just been inducted into the Ancient and Honorable
>>Society of Leica R10 Prototype Testers, with all the rights, duties,
>>and privileges pertaining thereto.
>>
>>As ever,
>>
>>Bill
>>
>>
>>On Feb 8, 2007, at 9:10 AM, mehrdad wrote:
>>
>>ok here is a link to rob galbraith's site
>>
>>http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-8736-8825
>>
>>looks like DMR is done.i still want the 1.3
>>
>>On 2/4/07, drpuritz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <drpuritz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>As always, thanks for the detailed and informative reply David.
>>>
>>>Elliot
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: David Young <telyt@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Date: 2007/02/04 Sun PM 12:41:06 EST
>>>>To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMPORTANT: Re: DMR Support, all together now.
>>>> please read
>>>>
>>>>Elliot wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'd be interested to hear from all of the very accomplished and
>>>>>pleased DMR users.
>>>>>Now I wonder about the R10.
>>>>>
>>>>>As an aside, I am visiting family in Boston and I stopped in at
>>>>>Newtonville Camera, one of my favorite
>>>>>"old time" photo stores. Interesting to know that they are sold out
>>>>>of M8 cameras, with no more
>>>>>expected until April. Also, no DMR modules in stock, or on the
>>>>>horizon.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Hi Elliot!
>>>>
>>>>As I mentioned to Mehrdad, the DMR is a fine picture making machine,
>>>>even with it's existing firmware. Just yesterday, while
>>>>photographing the Polarthon (3km speed skate, 4 km run, 5km X-country
>>>>ski) a photojournalism student, at nearby Three Rivers University,
>>>>looked at the back panel of my DMR and exclaimed "Wow! I wish I could
>>>>get colours like that with my Nikon ! "
>>>>
>>>>And, as mentioned in my earlier post, the DMRs remain available.
>>>>However, few dealers are keen to stock it, as sales are slow. Still,
>>>>they can order them. (There have been stories about dealers who did
>>>>not support Leica with the DMR finding themselves "low on the totem
>>>>pole", for M8 deliveries. While this is a common practice in
>>>>business, I have no way of knowing if it is true.)
>>>>
>>>>You need not wonder about the R10. Leica's intention is to build
>>>>both hardware and firmware for the R10 so that they avoid exactly the
>>>>problems they are apparently having with Imacon. No company can
>>>>afford to be "held hostage" to another, as Leica are to Imacon,
>>>>for the DMR.
>>>>
>>>>As previously mentioned, Leica are building up their "in house"
>>>>expertise, for firmware, and now write their own code for their
>>>>PanaLeicas. However, at this point, they do not have the expertise
>>>>to write firmware for the M8 or DMR. They plan on having this in
>>>>place for the R10.
>>>>
>>>>As an aside, rumours (and only rumours) have it that this is why the
>>>>Sinar purchase fell through. Leica thought they were getting
>>>>Jenoptik's software group as part of the Sinar deal. Jenoptik
>>>>thought otherwise. Had Leica got what they wanted, I'm pretty sure
>>>>Leica would have offered lenses for Sinars - especially the Sinar-M
>>>>and Sinar Hy6 (http://tinyurl.com/yp6pvo). Purchasing Jenoptik's
>>>>software group (who wrote the M8's firmware) would have quickly put
>>>>them firmly in the digital game. Alas; that, it seems, was not to
>>>>be.
>>>>
>>>>As for the M8 ... well, despite it's problems (banding - cured by a
>>>>recall; IR sensitivity - cured by filters; and noise - more noise at
>>>>high ISO's than the DMR, it seems) it's initial, sold-out shipment
>>>>totaled more units than I understand they've sold DMRs to date! The
>>>>M8 will, it seems, save Leica. However, to be "a player" in the
>>>>camera business, they must have a dSLR which works - and works very,
>>>>very well. The R10 is intended to be that camera. Short of the
>>>>financial collapse of Leica (now not too likely, with ACM's ownership
>>>>and the success of the M8), I think the future of the R10 is assured.
>>>>
>>>>In ACM, they have an owner with the deep pockets required to make it
>>>>happen. In Steven Lee, they have a CEO capable of making it happen.
>>>>
>>>>Will it happen? Only time will tell. But, I hope so.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>---
>>>>
>>>>David Young,
>>>>Logan Lake, CANADA
>>>>
>>>>Wildlife Photographs: http://www.telyt.com/
>>>>Personal Web-pages: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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