Do I understand Bill that an R10 prototype is already in the testing stages? Elliot ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Abbott" <wbabbott3@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMPORTANT: Re: DMR Support, all together now. please read > Dear Mehrdad, > > Thanks. When a door closes behind you, another door opens in front of > you. > > I believe I have just been inducted into the Ancient and Honorable > Society of Leica R10 Prototype Testers, with all the rights, duties, > and privileges pertaining thereto. > > As ever, > > Bill > > > On Feb 8, 2007, at 9:10 AM, mehrdad wrote: > > ok here is a link to rob galbraith's site > > http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-8736-8825 > > looks like DMR is done.i still want the 1.3 > > On 2/4/07, drpuritz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <drpuritz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> As always, thanks for the detailed and informative reply David. >> >> Elliot >>> >>> From: David Young <telyt@xxxxxxxxx> >>> Date: 2007/02/04 Sun PM 12:41:06 EST >>> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMPORTANT: Re: DMR Support, all together now. >>> please read >>> >>> Elliot wrote: >>>> I'd be interested to hear from all of the very accomplished and >>>> pleased DMR users. >>>> Now I wonder about the R10. >>>> >>>> As an aside, I am visiting family in Boston and I stopped in at >>>> Newtonville Camera, one of my favorite >>>> "old time" photo stores. Interesting to know that they are sold out >>>> of M8 cameras, with no more >>>> expected until April. Also, no DMR modules in stock, or on the >>>> horizon. >>> Hi Elliot! >>> >>> As I mentioned to Mehrdad, the DMR is a fine picture making machine, >>> even with it's existing firmware. Just yesterday, while >>> photographing the Polarthon (3km speed skate, 4 km run, 5km X-country >>> ski) a photojournalism student, at nearby Three Rivers University, >>> looked at the back panel of my DMR and exclaimed "Wow! I wish I could >>> get colours like that with my Nikon ! " >>> >>> And, as mentioned in my earlier post, the DMRs remain available. >>> However, few dealers are keen to stock it, as sales are slow. Still, >>> they can order them. (There have been stories about dealers who did >>> not support Leica with the DMR finding themselves "low on the totem >>> pole", for M8 deliveries. While this is a common practice in >>> business, I have no way of knowing if it is true.) >>> >>> You need not wonder about the R10. Leica's intention is to build >>> both hardware and firmware for the R10 so that they avoid exactly the >>> problems they are apparently having with Imacon. No company can >>> afford to be "held hostage" to another, as Leica are to Imacon, >>> for the DMR. >>> >>> As previously mentioned, Leica are building up their "in house" >>> expertise, for firmware, and now write their own code for their >>> PanaLeicas. However, at this point, they do not have the expertise >>> to write firmware for the M8 or DMR. They plan on having this in >>> place for the R10. >>> >>> As an aside, rumours (and only rumours) have it that this is why the >>> Sinar purchase fell through. Leica thought they were getting >>> Jenoptik's software group as part of the Sinar deal. Jenoptik >>> thought otherwise. Had Leica got what they wanted, I'm pretty sure >>> Leica would have offered lenses for Sinars - especially the Sinar-M >>> and Sinar Hy6 (http://tinyurl.com/yp6pvo). Purchasing Jenoptik's >>> software group (who wrote the M8's firmware) would have quickly put >>> them firmly in the digital game. Alas; that, it seems, was not to >>> be. >>> >>> As for the M8 ... well, despite it's problems (banding - cured by a >>> recall; IR sensitivity - cured by filters; and noise - more noise at >>> high ISO's than the DMR, it seems) it's initial, sold-out shipment >>> totaled more units than I understand they've sold DMRs to date! The >>> M8 will, it seems, save Leica. However, to be "a player" in the >>> camera business, they must have a dSLR which works - and works very, >>> very well. The R10 is intended to be that camera. Short of the >>> financial collapse of Leica (now not too likely, with ACM's ownership >>> and the success of the M8), I think the future of the R10 is assured. >>> >>> In ACM, they have an owner with the deep pockets required to make it >>> happen. In Steven Lee, they have a CEO capable of making it happen. >>> >>> Will it happen? Only time will tell. But, I hope so. >>> >>> Cheers! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> >>> David Young, >>> Logan Lake, CANADA >>> >>> Wildlife Photographs: http://www.telyt.com/ >>> Personal Web-pages: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------ >>> Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: >>> http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm >>> Archives are at: >>> //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ >>> >> >> ------ >> Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: >> http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm >> Archives are at: >> //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ >> > > > -- > ------------------------------------- > regards, mehrdad > ------ > Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm > Archives are at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > > ------ > Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm > Archives are at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/