Hello Axel"red", I saw the following lines in one of your posts and I felt compelled to pipe up and add my two cents worth. "Maybee i will get me a 50mm to go with my R3, or maybee i get the R8 ? Or maybee i will get a M6 ... Or maybee i will get some lessons and learn more before i buy more stuff" Get lessons! Learn More! If you have to choose between 'more gear' and 'learning to run your gear', CHOOSE Learning :-). There is a freedom and a joy in knowing the 'fundamental' principles and processes that underpin the 'technologies' we use to capture the photons making up the images we seek. Whether it's in a classroom somewhere or figuring it out on your own, I highly recommend tackling the following: Learn how a light meter works, learn about exposure reciprocity, what 18% grey is, how to get the colors you 'see' or 'want' without 'auto white balance" engaged, how to factor film/sensor sensitivity choices into getting the exposure settings you need or want. Best of all, how aperture and shutter speed are key parts in a photographer's creative toolbox. I consider 'Photography' to be an odd little creative artform in that unlike a painter, a sculptor, or cartoonist, the tools we use offer a fair bit of help getting 'usable' images in fairly short order. There are shortcuts available to learning the craft of photography and still arriving at satisfying images. Learning The Craft Of Photography is a powerful way to free oneself from Gear Chasing. It also helps you to know which Gear you Want, rather than which gear you think you need to fix this or that gap in one's knowledge of the craft! An example is learning your favorite images come with a moderate Tele shooting around f5.6 in a fair bit of sunlight. An 90mm Elmarit 2.8 will get the job done wonderfully well and a Summilux 90mm would be an obscenely expensive optic that you can pass up knowing the Elmarit 90 is a killer lens and doesn't give much ground to any lens shooting at a middle aperture. (This is a Bit of an over simplification so be careful how far you push the concept, but a workable analogy I think. The idea is to know what bits you 'need' and avoid buying gear that just costs you money without adding to your 'photography'.). Knowing the exposures you use, the exposures you want, and the gear to get em is a wonderful wonderful thing. Peace Richard in Michigan ________________________________ "There is a joy in taking photographs that will always be there, it is the joy of looking, of capturing that fraction of a second, it is the photographic shot, the intuitive shot..." (Henri Cartier-Bresson) ________________________________ â??No man hath given his child anything better than good manners.â?? - Prophet Muhammad (570-632) ________________________________ ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/