Guy's, For what it's worth, I would never buy a DMR given the numerous problems that I've quietly listened to on our forum. Of course, I wasn't a great fan of the R8 etc anyway. I dearly love the R7, 6.2, R5, R4SP & SL2 with all of the automation I ever need. When I need foolproog equipment for macro work, I just drag out the heavy guns from Nikon, use my adapter & mount a "M" Bellows II and Viso lens heads. I then use either my Sunpak DX8R or SB 21, Nikon TTL Ringlights, that way I have foolproof Nikon, multi-pattern matrix fill flash and Leica Glass. It's a win-win situation and I get off on the "tinkering". Art Tafil ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/