[LRflex] Re: DM-R Adventure
- From: "Dr. Puritz" <drpuritz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:44:34 -0400
Many thanks David.
Elliot
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From: "David Young" <telyt@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:31 PM
Subject: [LRflex] Re: DM-R Adventure
> Eliot asked:
>
>>However, the question remains, and should be asked: Did the
>>original purchasers of the DMR at the $5,000 price receive Beta units, and
>>if so, were they told?
>
> No. Whoever used the "beta" term had his tongue firmly planted in his
> cheek!
>
>
>>Now that the price has been increased $500-1000, do
>>the newer models have all of the "fixes", or are some of the later higher
>>priced models also in Beta testing?
>
> The price increase has to do with the drop in the value of the US
> Greenback, which is losing ground to every major currency due to the
> huge trade deficit the US is currently maintaining. It makes the
> DM-R more expensive for you and cheaper for me. Simple!
>
>
>>Do firm ware updates tend to fix "all" of the discovered problems in
>>a digital
>>camera, i.e., will there be a firm ware "fix" for the problems Alan and
>>David experienced?
>
> Firmware fixes fix problems as they are identified.. and as Doug
> pointed out, sometimes even add a few more! During the 8 months I
> had the Canon 20D I installed (as I recall) 3 firmware updates to fix
> bugs.
>
>> Do the digital camera bodies have to be sent back for
>>"updating"?
>
> No. You download the firmware from the maker's site, copy it to your
> memory card, put the card in the camera and turn the camera on. Then
> follow the instructions on the panel and within 1 or 2 minutes it's done.
>
>
>>I am certain the C and N have had their own set of problems with their
>>cameras, and I am not out to "bash" Leica. I only find it rather
>>interesting that the original DMR models might now be classified as Beta
>>cameras.
>
> See first answer.
>
>> Perhaps all newer model digital cameras at the time of their
>>introduction should be sold with the Beta designation?
>
> Perhaps. But they are not. Not ever. In any brand.
>
>>Perhaps the new digital M should carry the designation of Leica M
>>Digital Beta with the
>>relevant caveats included in the instructions?
>
> Perhaps. But they won't. Because every maker goes out of his way to
> alpha and beta test prior to release. But when we, the great
> unwashed, get hold of a product we use it in ways, and combinations
> of controls that the testers never imagined! We find the bugs, by
> pure dint of our numbers. Then the manufacturers work on fixing
> them, if they can. The result is a firmware update.
>
> If you think that a product should be perfect when first introduced
> (or even, ever!) then you should try moving into the real world. It
> is true that the DM-R has a few foibles, but overall it works very,
> very well. Some published reports feel that because of it's lack of
> AA filter and greater bit depth (16 vs 12 for brands N&C) that it
> offers superior results to cameras with many more pixels, and
> equivalent price. I've compared the output of the 10mp DMR to that
> of the 16mp Canon D1S/II, which costs nearly as much as the R9 and
> DM-R. I like the DMR's photos better, and wouldn't trade it for the
> world!
>
>
>> At a reported price of
>>almost $5,000 for the new digital M, what constitutes full disclosure to
>>potential buyers? Should such buyers be offered a discounted price for
>>6-12
>>months while the "bugs" are being worked out, and fixed?
>
> Now I hope that you have your tongue firmly planted in your cheek!
>
> As I mentioned the other day... when you were mulling the Nikon D70
> vs the DM-R. Buy the D70, and use your wife's lenses. Over a few
> months, decide if digital is for you. If yes, and you're happy with
> the Nikon's results, fine. If you find yourself wanting something
> better (as I did) you'll end up with the DM-R, or perhaps, by then,
> digital-M. Just be prepared to give the D70 to your wife, or sell
> it, as I did with my 20D. If you sell, you'll lose some money, but
> it's a much smaller loss than buying a DM-R up front, and then
> finding you prefer film!
>
> Cheers!
> ---
>
> David Young,
> Logan Lake, CANADA
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