[LRflex] Re: Bluedot Frustration...
- From: Steve Barbour <kididdoc@xxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:23:51 -0700
On Jan 25, 2008, at 11:47 PM, David Young wrote:
At 25/01/2008, you wrote:
Flare due to bright light reflection on the metallic part of the
camera?
Are you saying that on a second take with identical settings/light
and framing the blob has disappeared?
phx
My Philippe, but you are up early on a Saturday!
Can't be sure about same settings ... as I was a bit cavalier about
my settings ... quick and dirty shots, as they say.
However, on the morning of the day we first met you and Alice, I had
the same problem with a shot of Rose, taken outdoors, on the third
stage of the Eiffel Tower. Still, until today, it has been a rare
and unexplained occurrence.
However, I found more about this phenomenon here:
http://thesybersite.com/minolta/sensor-reflection/
Even more interesting is a comment found on one of the Nikon lists...
Ghosts involving a sensor reflection tend to be located away from
the optical axis. Its possible to have an on-axis ghost involving a
sensor reflection, but you have to have a bright spot in the on-
axis image in the first place. In this case the ghost image
coincides with the actual image.
On the other hand, hot spots are most pronounced when the subject
matter in the center of the field is dark, but surrounded by bright
stuff. Ray tracing inevitably shows that this can't be caused by a
sensor reflection, and that it is instead caused by a pair of lens
surface reflections.
So whether it is a reflection, off the rear element of the sensor,
or if it's caused by internal lens surface reflections (it seems to
be dependent on f stop) I'm still not sure. But, we learn more as we
go along!
I will make more specific tests and report back tomorrow (Saturday).
in the situation where this occurs...presumably it will be
reproducible... ie every shot under those conditions...
if you find it, then shoot 5 in a row of the same...Steve
G'night!
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At 25/01/2008, you wrote:
Flare due to bright light reflection on the metallic part of the camera?Are you saying that on a second take with identical settings/light and framing the blob has disappeared?phx
My Philippe, but you are up early on a Saturday!Can't be sure about same settings ... as I was a bit cavalier about my settings ... quick and dirty shots, as they say.
However, on the morning of the day we first met you and Alice, I had the same problem with a shot of Rose, taken outdoors, on the third stage of the Eiffel Tower. Still, until today, it has been a rare and unexplained occurrence.
However, I found more about this phenomenon here: http://thesybersite.com/minolta/sensor-reflection/ Even more interesting is a comment found on one of the Nikon lists...
Ghosts involving a sensor reflection tend to be located away from the optical axis. Its possible to have an on-axis ghost involving a sensor reflection, but you have to have a bright spot in the on- axis image in the first place. In this case the ghost image coincides with the actual image.On the other hand, hot spots are most pronounced when the subject matter in the center of the field is dark, but surrounded by bright stuff. Ray tracing inevitably shows that this can't be caused by a sensor reflection, and that it is instead caused by a pair of lens surface reflections.
So whether it is a reflection, off the rear element of the sensor, or if it's caused by internal lens surface reflections (it seems to be dependent on f stop) I'm still not sure. But, we learn more as we go along!
I will make more specific tests and report back tomorrow (Saturday).
G'night! --- David Young, Logan Lake, CANADA Wildlife Photographs: http://www.furnfeather.net Personal Web-pages: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt Stock Photography at: http://tinyurl.com/2amll4 ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/
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