forgot to mention AD HOMINEM ARGUMENT

DEAR LIST,

            I forgot to mention the 5 years I spent double majoring in Photo
Science and Photo Illustration at RIT.again, not that it matters at all
regarding the validity of my criticism.

                        BOB

 

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From: leica-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:leica-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of BOB KISS
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:46 PM
To: leica@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: AD HOMINEM ARGUMENT

 

DEAR LIST,

            I guess I need to remind some on this list of the concept of an
"ad hominem" argument.  This means that many people will try to disparage a
statement, idea, or criticism because they can criticize the personal
attributes, competence, or talent of the person who said it.  The point is
that the statement, idea, or criticism may, indeed, be valid even if the
person saying it can be easily put down.  If a stinky drunk lying in a
gutter makes a valid criticism of one of your photos, does his failed life
make his observation less valid?  "Frankly, Scarlett, I don't give a damn"
what you think of me or my photos.I believe my criticism has merit and is
certainly no less valid than the visual insensitivity of those who
criticized the Barnack photos.  I also don't care who Barnack is.the photos
on that site have more life in them than a lot of what I have seen on this
list.      

            From the last few e-mails I have read, I feel I have hit a nerve
and the reaction reminds me of Hamlet, "Me thinks the lady doth protest too
much!"  

            Now for those who presume to know anything about me, the very
concise summary on my past work on my very out of date website doesn't even
scratch the surface of my resume.  I have worked and continue to work for
international advertising agencies, major international magazines, and
international clients.  I shot my first national magazine cover in 1972 and
I have shot 8 covers of Interview Magazine, 9 covers of Essence Magazine,
and I continue to photograph world famous musicians.  My work has appeared
in, to name just a few, Paris Vogue, German Vogue, British Vogue, Italian
Men's Bazaar, etc.  I have taught photography at ICP and guest lectured at
FIT, NYU, and The Art (is it Center or Institute? This was in the late 80s)
in LA.  My photos have appeared in half a dozen high profile books on
beauty, fashion, celebrities, and photography.  I have three years of
training in film making at NYU and 6 years of training in theater directing
from Masterworks Laboratory Theater.  

Because I got tired of the madness of the NYC fashion and advertising
industries I  moved to Barbados in 1993 and have concentrated on selling my
fine art photography since 1996.  My prints are in private and public
collections on three continents.

So, if you think you are going to impress me with one cover, or publication
in one or two books you are seriously mistaken.  What will impress me is
some HEART IN YOUR PHOTOS.  Some pulsating, breathing soul!  

**********BUT THE POINT IS THAT NONE OF THIS MATTERS!  My criticism in
response to the visually insensitive comments regarding the images on the
Barnack site IS valid just because IT IS ACCURATE.not because of who I am or
what I have done.  If you don't like it, use the delete button as I do with
many of your photos and comments.  Fair is fair!

            While being fair, some of the photos of birds have a touch of
the eternal and divine in them.  The photos of those children in the
hospital will haunt and encourage me for the rest of my life.  You have MANY
excellent examples of good work on this list.  Why not ALL aspire to reach
THAT SAME LEVEL with your own chosen subjects or genre of work?  If you put
the same energy into your work that you put into invective against me,
imagine what you could accomplish!

            Now, as suggested off list by one of the more enlightened
members of this list, I shall retire to looking and, in an effort to be
gracious, I will compliment those photos I think are excellent and simply
make no comment otherwise.

                        CHEERS!

                                    BOB

 

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"Live as if you are going to die tomorrow.  Learn as if you are going to
live forever".  Mahatma Gandhi

 



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